Eric Kellar

Hey guys, I'm new to the club so sorry if i am in the wrong spot. Anyway. I've got a situation but I need to know a little more information. I've got a 1991 Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5L 5 speed. It has a burnt valve, and I've found a motor that is cheaper than repairing the valve.. BUT it's from a 1991 Civic HD 1.6L 5 speed.

What I need to know is:
Will the engine mounts line up?
Will the wire harness from my 91 1.5L work with the 92 1.6LI want to put in?
Are there any other things I need to consider?

Thanks in advance.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

I dunno what a Civic HD is, but if you're talking about Canadian/US cars then the answers are:

yes
no
that depends... you say it's from a 91 CIvic HD, then you later say it's a 92 1.6L.

Eric Kellar

oops, sorry, typo. I meant HB, hatchback. Both vehicles are hatchback 5 speed.

So my motor, 1.5L 1991
His motor, 1.6L 1992

Also forgot to ask, will the transmission bolt right up too?

imported_SMGFANDOTCOM

You would have to use your 1.5 intake manifold on his 1.6 motor with your harness. Use your flywheel, clutch and your tranny.

And it's been a while but I think the fan switch on the 92 is in the thermostat housing so you would have to extend the wires for the connector on your harness because on your motor it's in the back of the block next to the oil pressure sensor.


Oh yaa you have to use your distributor on the 92 cylinder head so you gotta slot the holes in the mounting tabs for your distributor and then user big washers on the bolts.



Oh ya someones going to throw in that 92 1.6 must be vtec....but it's ok lol...as long as it runs strong you don't need to worry about hooking it up.



If you are sure it's just the head, you can buy another head a head gastket and intake gasket for under $150....but ya sometimes it's better to replace the whole thing.

Eric Kellar

Not going to lie, sounds like a lot more work than I want to bother with. Might just go spend the extra $250 and get another 1.5L motor for her. Thanks for the help guys.

imported_spl_civic

come on dont get lazy
this kind of work is fun
save your money, and gain some experience
i managed to do my first swap by reading up on the net, and by getting help from the people on this site
drop the motor in, the mounts will line up, and then if you have problems from there then post em up and someone will help you out

Eric Kellar

you do have a point, this kind of work is definately fun. I own a 1995 Eagle Talon (Converted to 1999 Eclipse) and it always needs work. It's been under the knife all winter, since she doesnt see snow.

I'll give it a shot, I've got all weekend to do it. Any more info would be greatly appreciated.

imported_SMGFANDOTCOM

To be honest in this case....i'd just get another running 1.5 motor.

you need a sawzall or grinder or hacksaw to slot the holes on the distributor you need to buy another intake gasket....blah blah

For $250 if it's a good running 89-91 1.5...i'd go that route....nothing to dick around with... especially if it's your daily driver, you have limited knowledge and you need the car running by monday

Eric Kellar

Well, the situation is that it is my daily driver, and my motor knowledge is pretty much exclusive to the 4G63 Mitsubishi motor,and the 420A chrysler motor.

the honda is just a winter car, I love her all the same though.

The running 1.5L motor will be $250 more than the 1.6L motor, should have specified that. So it will be $200 for the 1.6L and $450 for the 1.5L. Either way, I'll let you guys know, it's not this weekend it gets done anyway.

In any case, you're all good help. Thanks a ton!

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

I'd be careful buying a 200 dollar D16Z6 since those engines get beat by riceboyz who think VEEETTTAAAAAKKKK and Motomaster oil are a good combination. In reality high rpm and cheap oil = spun bearing.

In any case, if you're gonna go through the trouble to adapt a newer engine into your older vehicle, why not get something from the late 90s like a D16Y7? or just do a straight replacement engine like you said.

in any case, 92+ trannies you can't use since they're hydraulic clutch, whereas you have a cable actuated clutch.

imported_starboy869

IMO I would spend a few extra dollars and get a SOHC ZC . VTEC is overrated on those engines anyways.

Yeah $200 D16 is almost asking for trouble. Plus there's a lot of shifty people in the TCC classifieds.

Eric Kellar

Motor was coming from a friend of mine, but I do know he redlined his motor a few times, and has abused it. Right now I'm leaning towards the direct swap with the same motor type just for simplicity, but I am waiting to hear back from my mechanic friend to see what my best options are (friend of mine owns his own shop, gives me a decent deal on labour).

I don't want to throw a ton of cash into her, since I'll be driving my talon in less than 2 months anyway;however, I do want it to run next winter too. So repairing the honda seems logical.

kwasley

D-series are bulletproof

imported_starboy869

D-Series aren't bulletproof. When I bought my old 90 HB the rings on the D15 were toast.

zex_civic

How many km's were on your D series tho. but ricers do like to buy a civic, put a wing on them and drive the $h!t outa them. they do take quite a beating for what they are but totally NOT bullit proof. mine had 200,000 km's on it and i baught it off my uncle (Family man, baught it brand new) and the rings were toast as well. Take the step and do the sohc zc.

Eric Kellar

my d series motor has 319,000km on it.. only thing is the valve, still gets strong compression across the board, so i dont see why she wouldn't last a while longer.

I just went out and bought the parts to repair the motor, as well as a new timing belt. Friend of mine is a licensed mechanic, so he'll be helping me out with the repair. Far cheaper than paying for labour, or buying a new motor. If the repair doesn't work, then I'll get a new motor for her.

zex_civic

woops, sorry about that, i ment to say the valves are gone, not the rings are gone..sorry bout that.

Dominik

Eric, It's Dominik Price from ca.dsm.org.
Why dont you just buy a vtec head here for like 80 bucks, new head gasket and timing belt and you're laughing. mini me swaps aren't bad for what they are...

Eric Kellar

Actually ended up deciding to wait before i fix the civic, going to repair the talon instead. Got everything i need for the talon and its head is already at the machine shop. Cheaper fix, nicer car.

The civic isn't dead, i'll just fix her in the fall.

imported_Bruce Fee

i beg to differ, mine was burning oil for a while and i finally killed it... just under 200k

stupid honda