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Old 20-Nov-2005, 10:55 AM
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Studded vs. Studless

I have been posting a few threads about tires, so if u know about tires, please check my others and throw some advice in if you can. can anyone explain to me the advantage if there is one to having a studded winter tire for miss. ontario canada over a studless... some claim to be as good as studded, but from what i see studed is the best but they seem to lack high speed stability... like some tires are winter hazzard rated... we don't seem to get too many snowfalls like that in the winters... are tires like that something I don't really need? Thanks.
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Old 20-Nov-2005, 11:21 AM
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I don't think metal studded tires are legal in ontario.....either way the weather isn't that bad in teh GTA to warrent them....good snow tires are sufficient...
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Old 20-Nov-2005, 12:10 PM
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Currently studded tires are illegal in Ontario, but I believe they are legal in Northern Ontario. They are legal in other provinces though. Our winters are not harsh enough in order to really need them anyways.

Wait a few years and they should be legal here though as the Transportation Minister is trying to get them passed and he admits to ruuning studded tires in the winter.

Like it was posted a good winter tire is more than enough anyways. As far as speed ratings, the studs son't really affect it as the new ones are similar to the spikes on a golf shoe, they are small plastic studs, not monster metal spikes like they used to be.
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yeah, there are some toyo i think they are called observe and they have crushed walnut shells in the tire. supposed to be more stable than studded tires with the industrial compound in them or whatever it is. Any idea if those would be legal?
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Originally posted by mikepasini
yeah, there are some toyo i think they are called observe and they have crushed walnut shells in the tire. supposed to be more stable than studded tires with the industrial compound in them or whatever it is. Any idea if those would be legal?

lmao...crushed walnut shells...hehehe
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Old 26-Nov-2005, 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
yeah, there are some toyo i think they are called observe and they have crushed walnut shells in the tire. supposed to be more stable than studded tires with the industrial compound in them or whatever it is. Any idea if those would be legal?
LOL.. I think you watched that Toyo commercial on TV one too many times.

I have the Toyo Observe G-02's and I don't see any crushed walnut shells, LOL.

These are not the best winter tires, but they are not bad though.
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i heard that studded tires are allowed in ontario... but only from french river, north are allowed to have them.
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Old 26-Nov-2005, 02:09 PM
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Well I live in an area where studded tires are usefull but only because we get alot of freezing rain and sharp temp swings that cause roads to ice up. Studs are only good for traction on ice in snow they do nothing, your tread design and self cleaning capabilities are what provides snow traction. But higher end winter tires now are almost as capable on ice without studs due to their ability to disperse the layer of water on top of the ice, and yes crushed walnut shells are used but you cannot see them they are crushed to the point that they are like having course traction sand embeded in your tire.
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thanks... i thought i wasn't crazy..
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Old 26-Nov-2005, 02:41 PM
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thanks... i thought i wasn't crazy..
No you are not crazy they do use them
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