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Old 22-Jul-2003, 10:11 PM
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stock air box vs short ram?

i noticed that when i put my stock air box back in the car is quieter... but feels like it has more power at all rpms.... i had a custom short ram... it placed the cone as far to the right turn signal area under the hood as possible... which is roughly where the stock air box pulls air from....

has anyone else noticed this one??
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You left out the resonator horn right??
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Your stock air filter box has an intake tube that draws in cooler air, so really, I can't see the point to the short ram. All I can see is that they're more open to allow more air to run into it freely, but it really doesn't seem to improve performance from what I've seen and heard.

go CAI
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Old 22-Jul-2003, 10:24 PM
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well i'm first hand proof they dont do anything... i must say it sounded good at full throtle but thats it...

94EG6HB - what do you mean by resonator horn??
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The peice that is in the fender lining and back into the enigine bay again.


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Old 22-Jul-2003, 10:30 PM
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A short ram does nothing to improve performance over a stock air box. But it does sound alot better.
 
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Originally posted by 94EG6HB
The peice that is in the fender lining and back into the enigine bay again.


the plastic intake tube that I was referring to. lol
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ya its still on there.... what i was thinking of doing.... was keeping the box in there... and you know how the Si fronts have that big opening and then two smaller ones to either side?? well take the one on the passenger side and open it up and make a ram air type thing there?? is that a good idea??
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
ya its still on there.... what i was thinking of doing.... was keeping the box in there... and you know how the Si fronts have that big opening and then two smaller ones to either side?? well take the one on the passenger side and open it up and make a ram air type thing there?? is that a good idea??
I don't see any reason you couldn't try that. How's about we have a look at it tomorrow night and go from there?
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well tomorrow i'm taking a stab at installing springs.... if that goes smoothly then i wouldn't assume this ram air thing to take long.... i may have to drill a hole and paint... but thats not to shabby to have 2 or 3 psi of boost on the highway
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I've heard of the bolt on the rear shocks to seize up. Give yourself plenty of time and make sure you have all the necessary tools before you begin.
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ya i know... i'm hoping my buddy can bring me some air tools but if not its going be a bitch getting those LCA bolts off
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thats why we have my good friend mr torch
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i found out that putting the stock air box off the start is faster...
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The only reason why I have SRI is because the strut bar presses down the air box and it was rubbing pretty bad... so I had to take it out and put in a cheap SRI. The reason why I bought a cheap one was because I didn't know if I will swap later or turbo or whatever.

The things don't rub against each other, I am happy. Couldn't careless whethere I gain a few ponies or not. The strut bar was my main focus.

Still have that CAI Extension piece at home, I might use it later, if no one wants to buy it.
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how much do you want for the Cold Air Extension ?
and what is the diameter
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hey charles,

I was once like you, leaving out the CAI extension(afraid of water)......until tonight(just put it on for fun).......man. YOu gotta give it a try, it made a difference for me. Takes 5 min.

Sorry sketch.

I also believe that SRI has little to no increase in power over stock. However, when my car was stock, anything over 6000 rpm would just scream and wail and feel lifeless until the 7100 cutoff.

with the SRI I felt a loss in low-end torque, but when it hit 5500 rpm, it would pull and pull and pull till my fuel cutoff. SO it helped in the top end(very little pull).

now with the CAI extension on, I think it makes a big difference.

But yeah, having intake, headers, exhaust is no big whoop dee doo. Need boost or swap.
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
ya its still on there.... what i was thinking of doing.... was keeping the box in there... and you know how the Si fronts have that big opening and then two smaller ones to either side?? well take the one on the passenger side and open it up and make a ram air type thing there?? is that a good idea??
i did this with my cold air, very good when the sun goes down
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if it flows properly it should be good any time your going about 60-70 km/h or faster


how did you do it though??
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i just cut those 2 little slits with a saw type knife.. so that air can get in the fender well, what i really wanted to do is cut out the whole thing..but wasnt to sure with the rain getting in..but it shouldnt make a difference with that middle thing there anyways its not stopping anything..
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