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93CANDM-EGCoupe 05-Feb-2003 10:23 PM

Steering probs & Tie rods
 
Has anyone here needed serious steering maintenance and or replacement of tie rods? I was told by some "experts" that those rods are most likely the culprit for a drift in one direction while no gas/brakes are applied..that or allignment. THX

bbarbulo 05-Feb-2003 11:54 PM

For a 93 car I'd do the tie rods first, then align the car. It is well known that shitty tie rods can cause drifting.

imported_94EG6HB 05-Feb-2003 11:59 PM

What are the options in terms of performance aftermarket parts??

Can anyone recommend anything????

:confused:

bbarbulo 06-Feb-2003 08:40 AM

Moog makes good quality chassis replacement parts. I'd ask for those if I wasn't going OEM. In terms of aftermarket "performance" I don't know of anyone that makes "performance" tie rods :p whatever those are. :D Race cars use aluminium units that they custom make in house or higher up they use carbon fiber.

93CANDM-EGCoupe 06-Feb-2003 12:28 PM

Hey, this reminds me of Sport Comp. Car's progect EG civic, where they said something about a steering "quickener", which would in effect reduce the distance the steering wheel had to travel to turn the wheels...so if it's a 1:1 ratio (just for example) where if you turn the steering wheel 1 unit, the wheels would turn the same, it would make it something quicker like 1:2; where wheels turn twice as much. I don't see the need as a smaller diameter steering wheel would effectively accomplish the same thing. I asked about this to some people at speedorama who looked like they kew what they were talking about but had never heard of it, and their booth was exclusively steering and suspension products..I forget their name at the moment...so has anyone heard of this steering quickener?

bbarbulo 06-Feb-2003 01:50 PM

Never head of one, but it could be a new rack and pinion unit from a CX model or something. I've never heard of performance aftermarket boxes for the Civic to get quick steering ratios, but it would have to be a complete new unit. Prolly not worth it for a daily driver.

EK7_DriftMania 09-Feb-2003 01:38 PM

Actually, steering and suspensions are the most important aspects to the car. Take it from someone that knows, I just totaled my 2000 civic with 70K km on it. The drifting is what caused my accident, you cannot control it at all, you just sit there and wait for the crash, then the air bags blows and you get cut up by shape objects. And there is nothing you can do about it........

imported_GMech 10-Feb-2003 12:56 AM

Steering
 
Got to decide if its a brake pull or a tire pull first.
If the car pulls onto one side without the brakes applied, then its possibly alignment (damaged or loose parts) or tire pulls (uneven wear) etc.
Check for loose connections such as ball joints, tie-rods, bushings or upper control arms for worn parts. It should have no free play on steering parts anyway. Then have the alignment check out.

GMech

bbarbulo 10-Feb-2003 08:32 AM

EK7_DriftMania, I am curious....how did you manage to get drifting in a 2000 Civic. Mine has 100K+ and it's a 1998, and it drives like a brand new modified Civic. The steering is tight, the brakes are firm, there are no sqeaks....so I don't get it...what did you do to yours to get this sort of a problem?

BB1-4WS 10-Feb-2003 02:43 PM

If there's play in the wheel, and it's not balljoints, then it's tierod ends.

I'd stick with factory for critical parts. Even though Moog has a good reputation, I tend to stick with factory parts for these applications.


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