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Old 20-Jan-2004, 06:16 PM
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Hi guys THX for reading. With all the engine swaping goin on in here, I'm left feelling overwhelmed with all the information on the topic.
I have a specific question and require a specific answer please. I have a 93 Del Sol S that falls in the 5th gen civic years. I want to do a swap only with an engine that will directly drop in WITH NO MODIFICATIONS (except for the ECU).
It presently has a D15B7. Del Sols also came with D16z6 and (here is where my question comes in) B16a....1?...2?...3? What is the differance? Will they all fit? I heard that some engines came with a 4th engine mount? How about GSR engines? What year will bolt right in with no mods? I've read that GSR from 94 to 97 will do? They are B18c...1?...2?...3? (I know about the axle needing changing) Will GSR engines up to 00 fit? Is there a chart somewhere on a website that can clear this up? I've found several sites with lists that leave me more confused!!! Can you guys just make up a list with engines that will directly go in, there codes (ei: b16a) and car model and years they came in?
THX all help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 06:45 PM
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del sol = b16a2 and don't know about any other questions u asked cuz i know **** about del sol's
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 06:55 PM
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try www.hondaswap.com and all of those engines will fit
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D15B7 will drop in with no mods

nothing will drop in w/o any modifications (except ECU) - that **** just don't work like that.

At the barest minimum of minimums, you'd have to add some wires for VTEC.

A B18B would drop in, but you'd still gotta do some wiring changes. If you are unaware, I tell you in good faith - you are not ready to do this. Else you'll end up with a heap in your driveway, and an engine in the garage, and you'll end up selling it out of frustration.
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B16A1 - old skool B16
B16A3 - 96-97 del Sol B16
B16A2 - 99-00 Civic SiR B16
B16A JDM B16

B18C1 - USDM GSR
B18C5 - USDM ITR
B18C - JDM SiR or ITR
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 08:10 PM
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i thought a2 was del sol's oh well
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 08:16 PM
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A3 was the delsols....

why does everyone want to get rid of the d15b7...


THATS IT I'M OFFICIALLY CREATING A ORPHANAGE FOR D15B7'S... SEND THEM MY WAY AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM AND GIVE THEM NICE HOMES. (please note I will not pay you for the engine)
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 08:30 PM
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I'd be nice to have more *****. AH c'om you know what I mean! More ponys under the hood!!!
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 08:31 PM
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B16a SIR2 = JDM 92-95 civic VTi motor

170hp

Forgot that!
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Old 20-Jan-2004, 10:48 PM
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You can fit any b series motor in your car....but you'll need the matching b series brackets and mounts, ECU, axles, shift linkage and tranny...this includes a b16a3 (the motor that came in the DOHC del sols).

The only motor you can drop in your car without any modification is another d series motor.

Your ECU is OBDI, so if you wanted to go with a GSR, 94-96 GSRs would be the easier route because they are OBDI...someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can also install 97+ GSR motors in your car, but they are OBDII so you'd either have to buy an ECU converter, or change the distributor and injectors.

Or another option is to turbo your current motor. I'm sure the z6 Greddy kit or the Apex'i kit would fit on your d7 with some minor modification.

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Originally posted by chinslip
I'd be nice to have more *****. AH c'om you know what I mean! More ponys under the hood!!!
[start pissing contest mode]

come out to an autocross with a swap ... I'll show you what real ***** are.... muahahahaha trust me when you see the time sheet your jaw will hit the ground...

[end pissing contest mode]

anyways seriously do the suspension up first...
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this is a good chart to look at

http://www.hondahookup.com/honda_engine_swap_chart.php

there us more info on the rest of the site
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If you wanna keep the tranny just get a ZC..



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Old 21-Jan-2004, 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Tman
B16a SIR2 = JDM 92-95 civic VTi motor

170hp

Forgot that!
that civic Vti would be a EG6

there is also a Vti Eg4 which is the d15b
1.5 vtec

just to confuse ppl even more
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Old 21-Jan-2004, 06:59 PM
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1nicesi...would the engine code for a 94-96 GSR be...b18c1? Are the newer ones c2 or c3? How do I know the exact year of the engine? THX
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damn.. that chart is handy, b16a1 in a 5th gen? is it as easy as switching the tranny?
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