For a soch vtect civic?
#1
For a soch vtect civic?
which cam gears are better aem or skunk2? is there a diference? how much hp gain? and should I upgrade something when adding this in my engine?
price on aem ? price on skunk2?
regards Daniel
price on aem ? price on skunk2?
regards Daniel
#2
Who is doing the tuning for you? You will need this dyno tuned, there is no "best" setup for it. I will tell you one thing... best thing to get would be the adjustable cam gears from Leitner Performance. I saw them first hand... real nice quality, OEM fitment and durability. I think you need to give them a call or stop by the shop, check it out first hand. I'll tell you though, you NEED to get these tuned by someone who knows what they are doing. Find a shop in the area who is capable of doing tuning and has experience.
#4
neither, yes, 3, yes
regards Bruno
I didn't answer your questions directly cuz I'm not a ******* store, so if you want prices pick up the phone and call a store. And really, you can lose hp or gain hp, depending on tuning. So assuming your questions reflect your intelligence, I'd say you will lose power. PM SW20 MR2 for great prices on most products.
This is a forum where we share info, so I told you what the ideal solution for your "problem" is.... Get Leitner adjustable gears, cuz they are the most durable and reliable. Between the two you listed, I'd choose Skunk2, but over and above, I'd still choose Leitner ones over Skunk2.
regards Bruno
I didn't answer your questions directly cuz I'm not a ******* store, so if you want prices pick up the phone and call a store. And really, you can lose hp or gain hp, depending on tuning. So assuming your questions reflect your intelligence, I'd say you will lose power. PM SW20 MR2 for great prices on most products.
This is a forum where we share info, so I told you what the ideal solution for your "problem" is.... Get Leitner adjustable gears, cuz they are the most durable and reliable. Between the two you listed, I'd choose Skunk2, but over and above, I'd still choose Leitner ones over Skunk2.
#7
Originally posted by DanielM
your an ***!! for that crap you just said. why don't you ahead and get a gun sick it in your mouth and pull the triger. Maybe then oh **** it!!
your an ***!! for that crap you just said. why don't you ahead and get a gun sick it in your mouth and pull the triger. Maybe then oh **** it!!
personally i'm suprised that anyone replied after your slaughter of the word VTEC
#8
he also slaughtered the word SOHC... wel it's not a word ... but there is a proper order to the letters just like VTEC....
and I agree 100% with Bbarbulo ...
also you never mentioned what has already been done to the car if this is where you are starting then stop right no wand think harder about where to put your money ... which I'm not going to advise you on because of additude towards one of the most knowledgable dudes on this board.... bbarbulo knows his stuff and took time to consider then answer your question you should be thankful...
and I agree 100% with Bbarbulo ...
also you never mentioned what has already been done to the car if this is where you are starting then stop right no wand think harder about where to put your money ... which I'm not going to advise you on because of additude towards one of the most knowledgable dudes on this board.... bbarbulo knows his stuff and took time to consider then answer your question you should be thankful...
#9
thanks guys
Here is the thing (for everyone's benefit...all those considering cam gears): cam gears can be a real blessing or a real curse in the hands of the uneducated. Just because you have an a/f gauge in your car, and you have a set of Motomaster sockets does NOT make you a tuner.
Cam gears are designed to allow slight variations in cam timing, usually on DOHC engines where the exhaust and intake cams are separate. Large changes to the breathing capacities of these engines via new cam lobe profiles and valve changes maybe, P&P work, etc... all this called for a mechanical way to adjust the timing on how these cams behave. You can tune the cam to the particular track that you are racing, whether there are a lot of straights or a lot of curves (kinda like Mosport/Sears Point/Laguna Seca). Each track has it's preference. So slight changes in cam timing can affect the shape of the power curve. Now, for a SOHC, this is not as beneficial, since the intake and exhaust valves use the same bumpstick... so now all you can do is adjust the two together. Very little performance gains to be had. Really, unless you have a new cam... you are wasting your time. And if you have a new cam, you need a bigger t-body, and some mild head work would be nice to take max advantage of your newfound breathing capabilities. It's likely that your computer *may* be able to compensate, but really, you should look into a V-AFC or similar. I'm not saying that a camgear won't make power, but certainly it won't be at it's fullest potential. PLUS, on top of that, it will need more maintenance than normal, so if you are one of those ppl who like to set it and forget it... then just forget it altogether. Don't touch your engine... cuz then you'll blame everyone but yourself that your mods caused destruction to your engine. Also, with a cam gear, depending on the range og adjustablility and revs it's seeing, you are REAL close to messing with valve and piston clearance, so better set your valve lash a little bit on the safer side.
Here is the thing (for everyone's benefit...all those considering cam gears): cam gears can be a real blessing or a real curse in the hands of the uneducated. Just because you have an a/f gauge in your car, and you have a set of Motomaster sockets does NOT make you a tuner.
Cam gears are designed to allow slight variations in cam timing, usually on DOHC engines where the exhaust and intake cams are separate. Large changes to the breathing capacities of these engines via new cam lobe profiles and valve changes maybe, P&P work, etc... all this called for a mechanical way to adjust the timing on how these cams behave. You can tune the cam to the particular track that you are racing, whether there are a lot of straights or a lot of curves (kinda like Mosport/Sears Point/Laguna Seca). Each track has it's preference. So slight changes in cam timing can affect the shape of the power curve. Now, for a SOHC, this is not as beneficial, since the intake and exhaust valves use the same bumpstick... so now all you can do is adjust the two together. Very little performance gains to be had. Really, unless you have a new cam... you are wasting your time. And if you have a new cam, you need a bigger t-body, and some mild head work would be nice to take max advantage of your newfound breathing capabilities. It's likely that your computer *may* be able to compensate, but really, you should look into a V-AFC or similar. I'm not saying that a camgear won't make power, but certainly it won't be at it's fullest potential. PLUS, on top of that, it will need more maintenance than normal, so if you are one of those ppl who like to set it and forget it... then just forget it altogether. Don't touch your engine... cuz then you'll blame everyone but yourself that your mods caused destruction to your engine. Also, with a cam gear, depending on the range og adjustablility and revs it's seeing, you are REAL close to messing with valve and piston clearance, so better set your valve lash a little bit on the safer side.
#12
EK7_DriftMania, Leitner does have cams AND cam gears... If you are serious about building your engine internally... I recommend you get them to work the head, then put in a high-revving valvetrain, and go from there.
#16
dan you're a goof!!!
guys dont worry I'll slap him next time I see him.. LOL
dan just get the b16
someone correct me, but I've heard that if properly tuned you can get in the 200 hp range (crank) from a b16 with agressive cams....?
guys dont worry I'll slap him next time I see him.. LOL
dan just get the b16
someone correct me, but I've heard that if properly tuned you can get in the 200 hp range (crank) from a b16 with agressive cams....?
#17
A B16 *can* make 200 hp, but you do have to bump compression a bit... remember, even the CTR makes only 185 hp...so you'd have to have like a massaged B16B almost, except the block is different. It'd be expensive, let's just put it that way.
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