should i swap? or modify d16y8
09-May-2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Double_B
I see a rebuttle coming soon..................K, Bruno is very knowledgable. As for D or B series, like Nova said, anything can be done depending on what you want. I don't understand this whole D series vs B series thing, who cares! If you are happy with what you got, work with it, if you don't like it then go ahead, swap away, but bottom line, Honda engines are great period!
I see a rebuttle coming soon..................K, Bruno is very knowledgable. As for D or B series, like Nova said, anything can be done depending on what you want. I don't understand this whole D series vs B series thing, who cares! If you are happy with what you got, work with it, if you don't like it then go ahead, swap away, but bottom line, Honda engines are great period!
comparing a SOHC to a DOHC is like comparing a unicycle to a bicylce.....
09-May-2005, 04:34 PM
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Comparing a B series to a J is like comparing a bicycle to a motorcycle. :P
I will walk. :P
I will walk. :P
09-May-2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by scarlemthug
Very true that honda engines are great but the thing is u cant compare the 2 types of engines. A B series is geared towards performance where as the D series is an economy engine. The D series is pretty limited for potential even if u do every trick in the book ur gonna max out way before a B series will.
comparing a SOHC to a DOHC is like comparing a unicycle to a bicylce.....
Very true that honda engines are great but the thing is u cant compare the 2 types of engines. A B series is geared towards performance where as the D series is an economy engine. The D series is pretty limited for potential even if u do every trick in the book ur gonna max out way before a B series will.
comparing a SOHC to a DOHC is like comparing a unicycle to a bicylce.....
There was a good write up in one of my mags called SOHC vs DOHC, I am gonna find it and pull out the finer points and post it.
09-May-2005, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Comparing a B series to a J is like comparing a bicycle to a motorcycle. :P
I will walk. :P
Comparing a B series to a J is like comparing a bicycle to a motorcycle. :P
I will walk. :P
u can only do so much with a single cam engine
09-May-2005, 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by scarlemthug
u can only do so much with a single cam engine
u can only do so much with a single cam engine
09-May-2005, 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Double_B
I guess my issue is that D engines get crapped on as if they are not worth having. And you are right, you can't compare the two, but it is done time and time again in many of these threads, so bottom line, you don't like your D and want to swap, go ahead, but that doesn't make the D engine a bad one.
There was a good write up in one of my mags called SOHC vs DOHC, I am gonna find it and pull out the finer points and post it.
I guess my issue is that D engines get crapped on as if they are not worth having. And you are right, you can't compare the two, but it is done time and time again in many of these threads, so bottom line, you don't like your D and want to swap, go ahead, but that doesn't make the D engine a bad one.
There was a good write up in one of my mags called SOHC vs DOHC, I am gonna find it and pull out the finer points and post it.
A D series engine is good if ur on a budget and are worried about blowing up your engine or having issues with it because there cheaper to replace.
09-May-2005, 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust
I agree with you Chris, but only on the basis of NA tuning.
I agree with you Chris, but only on the basis of NA tuning.
I would definitely suggest getting a proper suspension setup, upgrade ur brakes (new rotors and performance street pads), and learn how to drive ur car before u start upping the power.
09-May-2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by b16civic
leave it stock and enjoy the non harassing cop free lifestyle. i have just parked my civic (NA b20 with 220hp and 160 torque) and am starting to drive my old 90 dx beater cause when you pay 1.01 for gas on occasion it hurts. ya its fun to get on the pedal and nail it but its not a fun daily driver after the first month. long live BONE STOCK!!
leave it stock and enjoy the non harassing cop free lifestyle. i have just parked my civic (NA b20 with 220hp and 160 torque) and am starting to drive my old 90 dx beater cause when you pay 1.01 for gas on occasion it hurts. ya its fun to get on the pedal and nail it but its not a fun daily driver after the first month. long live BONE STOCK!!
09-May-2005, 05:26 PM
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D motor's are still great motor's. I plan on building one for my winter beater since it is less complicated than swapping and will overall be cheaper. And there still WAAAAAY better than a stupid VW 8V........lol. But I jsut recomend a B to everyone because it will have awesome performance with minimal mod's. Your strecthing the limit of a D just to run with the Big boy's. If you don't care about being fast than stick with the D. Ive said it a million time's before, they can be quite peppy and great on gas. But there quick,not fast. You wanna go fast than swap. End of story. You can build up your D and boost the **** out of it and you still won't be able to run with a properly set up B.
09-May-2005, 05:30 PM
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guys all i want is around 170-200 whp that is enough for me i do not want to be up around 300whp im a daily driver also.. i only have aorund 3-5g to spend
09-May-2005, 05:32 PM
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get an ITR swap then
09-May-2005, 05:33 PM
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i have 3-5g to spend over a time period not all at once.. thats why im leaning towards turbo d16
09-May-2005, 05:37 PM
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Like everyone has said, what is it you really want to do with the car? If it's your daily driver, are you talking going to your 9-5 or going to school, what's the distance you are doing everyday? A lot of things come into play. Like B16civic says, It's great, but after traveling back and forth to work, it gets to be expensive. You plan on taking it to the track or you just want the extra power? You really need to know exactly what you want it for, because you may spend the money and regret it later. Once you have made your desicion, stick with it and don't go back.
Personally, I will do a swap, but only if my D engine is blown or cost too much to fix and a swap engine is required.
Personally, I will do a swap, but only if my D engine is blown or cost too much to fix and a swap engine is required.
09-May-2005, 05:41 PM
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my d series has 120 xxx orginal km on it.. and trany is perfect.. no grinds at all.. i think im gona boost the d16.. thanks for all your opinions.. if anybody has done this b4 i would love to hear from them.. the pros and cons/ the do's and don'ts thanks
09-May-2005, 05:42 PM
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I Well with that low KM's it is a perfect candidate for Boost. You can alway's swap later if your not satisfied.
09-May-2005, 05:43 PM
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excellent point...
09-May-2005, 05:48 PM
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Do a search, there is lots of info on D turbo's. I was leaning towards the same thing and asked a few questions about it, but I have since changed my mind as it will not be covered by my insurance. BBARBULO has done one on his D engine, he just needs it to be tuned.
09-May-2005, 05:55 PM
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only thing i would mention is if u turbo u gotta use premium gas IMO, if u get a USDM B20 or B18b u can use 87 
10-May-2005, 05:48 PM
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Get the b18 swap and tune the shyt hell out of it. It's more than enough power in stock form to keep you happy IMO.
10-May-2005, 05:53 PM
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With Low KM's and a perfect tranny boost would be good. And with all that torque you'd pull out of corner's pretty damn fast. But you will probably be faster in the long run with a swap. Its a tough decision. You should just go in between and get a B18B. Than you can boost down the Road but will still have a quick car untill then. If you buy all this Turbo D stuff you'll be nice and slow untill you boost.
