imported_2drcivic

Hi,

I was looking for some expertise on a loose and wobbly shifter. I'm pretty sure I need to change the bushings but what kind should I get. I was reading on some other posts a while back, and a few people mentioned upgrading the bushings, also some mentioned to get a kit to replace additional parts. What should I get done here????? Is there a kit???

As well, when the car is cold, it gets hard to put it in some gears, especially 1st. The other gears like 3rd, I just slowly slip it in, and it goes fine. Once the car gets warmed after about 5 minutes driving, then I have no problem. I just recently replaced my clutch with an Exedy kit, so I know its not that. It could be related to the loud growling sound I get on pick up, which is apparently a drive shaft bearing in my tranny, but I think its something to do with the bushings....

Your input and advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

imported_ludesrv

...please...please check the level and condition of your tranny fluid.

Driveshafts don't have a bearing inside the tranny. They are 2 CV joints with a shaft. The CV joints can only bind/click...not...growl...that's the gears doing that noise...




Yikes. And bushings only effect the sloppy play on the shifter itself, it won't stop a gear from going in. That's your gear selector inside the transmission.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

correct X10 ^^

imported_2drcivic

sorry my error, its the input shaft bearing in the tranny! My bad...but I did a lot of research, but let me know if that is correct.......the noise comes on idle as well, and while idling, if I press the clutch down, the noise goes away, and when I release the clutch it comes back............and the release bearing was changed during the clutch change. I recently had the tranny fluid changed, and I made sure that the level was right at the top and not more...cause the last idiot who did it, overfilled it, which I believed caused a tranny seal to leak

Cynikal.Mindset

pilot bearing

VTEC_Thunder

When your foot is off the clutch in neutral...half your tranny is still spinning....when you put your foot on the clutch...it stops spinning. Thats that noice you were hearing. but it shouldn't be that loud...

How many km's on your car? What tranny fluid did you use? Did you install a new throw-out bearing with the new clutch?

imported_civic_66

my shifter was really wobbly and loose as well. when i took it off it was an aftermarket shifter with bearings and they were all broken so thats why. so i went and got a b&m short shifter and bought the rebuild kit from honda (you can only get it from honda) and now it is so tight. and also goes into gears a lot better.

VTEC_Thunder

I've got as megan racing short-throw and I'm waiting on energy suspension eurathane(sp?) bushings for the shifter from ********...

Should make it nice and toit!

imported_2drcivic

Currently the car has 135,000 km. I used the Honda Manual Tranny fluid...

I know I screwed my tranny because of hard shifting, and amature driving, I would down shift without rev matching, which is what screwed that input shaft bearing....from what I've been told from a few sources. I now rev match always, and the noise is quite loud, especially when accelerating in first and second gear....

imported_2drcivic

and also...in terms of the through out bearing...to be honest, I dont know what that is...but if it came in the clutch kit from Exedy, then it was replaced.

imported_mikepasini

the growling is the input shaft bearing... nothing else... if the noise goes away when you push the clutch in...

throw the tranny away and get another one for like $50.... they are so cheap for dseries...

to replace the input shaft bearing you have to take off the casing, spider gears and a few other things just to get at it... you could find someone on the boards who will swap your tranny for like $100 or something.

imported_mikepasini

and to clarify a lot of time the bearing will go from tire spinning... not really downshifting without rev matching... most people don't rev match when downshifting...


i be you rev match by pushing the clutch in and then pulling it in gear and blipping your throttle and lettinig the clutch out??? the whole idea of that was for cars without synchros back in the day and well, that isn't even the proper way to do it... you aren't saving your synchros and you are just using them all the same as before...

VTEC_Thunder

I cringe when I hear ppl downshift without rev-matching or 'heel-toeing'.

When you just dump it and drag the motor up to match, it wares down the clutch and it's hard on the tranny.

Rev-matching (heel-toeing) saves your clutch and tranny, whether they have syncros or not.

I heel-toe all the time now, like second nature to me. Even just driving normally coming up to a stop light or something...saves my brakes and clutch.


But yeah, your tranny shouldn't be chattering with the clutch out (engaged) in neutral...check your tranny fluid for metal flakes etc..

SLOGAN

I've got the same noise in my tranny as well!

I'll just end up replacing the tranny at some point when a good deal comes up.

chris_si98

I'm not going to read all this, but you said something about a bearing.

Input shaft bearing= noise is always there

Pinion shaft bearing= noise is there when car is moving, driving

Throw out bearing= when you depress the clutch pedal down.


Throw out bearing is more of a grinding sound, the transmission bearings tend to sound can vary, some sound like a whine, some sound what's best described to as someone ice skating on your casing, lol.


If it turns out its one of your trans. bearings, don't throw your old transmission out, give it to me

chris_si98

The transmission stops spinning when you depress the clutch eh?

chris_si98

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA


THE SPYDER GEARS????????


holy **** man.. you guys need to seriously stop talking outta your ***. If this guy honestly went to his mechanic and said some of the **** he read here his mechanic would think he's a flipping idiot.

ANd BTW if it is an input shaft bearing, the noise is ALWAYS there. But I guess you have a magical transmission with spyder gears that have to be removed to change the input bearing and an input shaft that doesn't spin when you depress the clutch since your clutch pedal disconnects the input shaft right?

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

actually its the centipede gears.....the ones next to the phenewter valve.

imported_Joe_98Si

but you sure its next to the phenewter valve and not the flux capacitor

spyder gears in my FWD car FTW!!!!!!!!

chris_si98

Yo Joe.. i think my helical cut reverse gear is grinding


hahahahaha