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roll cage?
05-Jun-2002, 11:43 PM
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Roll Cage
Street Car (Only)
No, If your car is a street car that you do NOT take to the track ..
There is no real advantage .... you gain chasis stifness at a cost of additional weight (60 lbs +) plus you lose the use of the back seat, and you car is permanently marked by either welds or bolt-holes.
If your Car is used on the Track and the street...
Roll Cage (6+ point) ... No if it is a daily driven street car, a full roll cage puts the steel tubing alot closer to your melon, and if that melon is not wearing a helmet during a collision you could bounce your melon off of the cage and severly hurt yourself.
Roll Bar (4 point) ... YES!!!!! It is a Safety item that you hope you will not need...but could save your life
Dedicated Track Car ...
4 point Roll bar is fine ...but a Roll Cage (6+ point) is Better ....A Roll CAGE (6+ point) provides more protection for you plus more chassis stiffness ...
P/S ... I run an AutoPower Bolt-in Roll Bar (4 point) in my Civic ... The car is my daily driver and I compete with it on weekends in Solo 1(Track) events and Solo2(Autocross) events
Cheers
Moose
No, If your car is a street car that you do NOT take to the track ..
There is no real advantage .... you gain chasis stifness at a cost of additional weight (60 lbs +) plus you lose the use of the back seat, and you car is permanently marked by either welds or bolt-holes.
If your Car is used on the Track and the street...
Roll Cage (6+ point) ... No if it is a daily driven street car, a full roll cage puts the steel tubing alot closer to your melon, and if that melon is not wearing a helmet during a collision you could bounce your melon off of the cage and severly hurt yourself.
Roll Bar (4 point) ... YES!!!!! It is a Safety item that you hope you will not need...but could save your life
Dedicated Track Car ...
4 point Roll bar is fine ...but a Roll Cage (6+ point) is Better ....A Roll CAGE (6+ point) provides more protection for you plus more chassis stiffness ...
P/S ... I run an AutoPower Bolt-in Roll Bar (4 point) in my Civic ... The car is my daily driver and I compete with it on weekends in Solo 1(Track) events and Solo2(Autocross) events
Cheers
Moose
05-Jun-2002, 11:55 PM
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thanks for the advise, very good BTW
yes my car is a street car and I'm thinking of installing a 4 point + harness bar...I don't put anyone in the back seat anyway
I removed all sound deadning material from the car and gave the inside a fresh coat of paint so that when it's stripped it would still look good....
wheight is an issue which is why I would most deffinetly go crome oly(sp?)...
you don't think that a 4 point would stiffen up the chassie?(welded in)
yes my car is a street car and I'm thinking of installing a 4 point + harness bar...I don't put anyone in the back seat anyway
I removed all sound deadning material from the car and gave the inside a fresh coat of paint so that when it's stripped it would still look good....
wheight is an issue which is why I would most deffinetly go crome oly(sp?)...
you don't think that a 4 point would stiffen up the chassie?(welded in)
06-Jun-2002, 06:44 AM
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Roll Bar / Cage
A roll bar (4 point) will definately stiffen up the rear end of the car .... weld-in more so than bolt-in
My 4 point DOM (mild Steel) weighs about `60 lbs, a chromoly of the same design should weigh about 45-50 lbs ....It will depend on the design, Ronnie's (O'Brien Motorsports) cages are VERY stiff strong and safe, but weigh a bit more due to the extra X-bracing
Cheers
My 4 point DOM (mild Steel) weighs about `60 lbs, a chromoly of the same design should weigh about 45-50 lbs ....It will depend on the design, Ronnie's (O'Brien Motorsports) cages are VERY stiff strong and safe, but weigh a bit more due to the extra X-bracing
Cheers
06-Jun-2002, 06:58 PM
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Re: Roll Bar / Cage
Originally posted by Moosilla
A roll bar (4 point) will definately stiffen up the rear end of the car .... weld-in more so than bolt-in
My 4 point DOM (mild Steel) weighs about `60 lbs, a chromoly of the same design should weigh about 45-50 lbs ....It will depend on the desin, Ronnie's (O'Brien Motorsports) cages are VERY stiff, but weigh a bit more due to the extra X-bracing
Cheers
A roll bar (4 point) will definately stiffen up the rear end of the car .... weld-in more so than bolt-in
My 4 point DOM (mild Steel) weighs about `60 lbs, a chromoly of the same design should weigh about 45-50 lbs ....It will depend on the desin, Ronnie's (O'Brien Motorsports) cages are VERY stiff, but weigh a bit more due to the extra X-bracing
Cheers
06-Jun-2002, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by KS-R
Where is O'Brian Motorsports? Cause I'll need to get mine done for my drag car.
Where is O'Brian Motorsports? Cause I'll need to get mine done for my drag car.
06-Jun-2002, 10:10 PM
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Well Camille, you are going to have a tough time convincing people you are in a 'sleeper' with a rollcage...but then again some of your othjer visislbe parts will give it away too.
That being said, get the cage. You are going to running a 12 second car...you need it.
That being said, get the cage. You are going to running a 12 second car...you need it.
07-Jun-2002, 01:04 AM
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AutoXer ....
My Roll Bar is made by AutoPower ... it is a 4 point bolt-in with the removable x-brace and harness bar options ... It was ordered through IOPORT in the States.
For Custom weld-in Cages you CANNOT beat Ronnie for quality ... He is DAMN good ... A couple of my bud's have his roll-bars in their cars .... Ronnie also did all the 2002 CASC-OR Nissian Spec series cages ....
Ya I know Ken From IPC ... he did some work on my previous car before I started/learned to wrench myself.
KSR
I cannot find Ronnie's actual address but I beleive his number is (416) 604-0477
Cheers
My Roll Bar is made by AutoPower ... it is a 4 point bolt-in with the removable x-brace and harness bar options ... It was ordered through IOPORT in the States.
For Custom weld-in Cages you CANNOT beat Ronnie for quality ... He is DAMN good ... A couple of my bud's have his roll-bars in their cars .... Ronnie also did all the 2002 CASC-OR Nissian Spec series cages ....
Ya I know Ken From IPC ... he did some work on my previous car before I started/learned to wrench myself.
KSR
I cannot find Ronnie's actual address but I beleive his number is (416) 604-0477
Cheers
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