imported_loudsubz

still fail to show any proof

take some under hood temps in both locations that the filter would be placed for SR and CAI and compare then get back to me

95CivicDxCoupe

now your compairing a Viper with a huge V10 to a Honda's I4 (just the engine bay alone is almost a full civic HB), and now which one will need the vent's because of the excess heat it produces. air can move freely underneat the car and out the wheel wells in a honda

now for the one's saying the SRI is make out of aluminium or what even metal it's make off, what and the CAI is not, the piping will heat up in either on SRI or CAI, plus the CAI has more piping to collect heat. Now the CAI sit's between the bumper and fender, how much moving air is their compaired to a SRI. SRI would still collect more moving air being a smaller pipe and dump it into the engine. Plus that's what you want, more Co2 in your engine to produce more power, not a some Co2 that's 5 degree's colder.


loving this debate, reminds be of the high school days

Nova_Dust

Doesn't threads like this gets locked or been told to "search" since god knows when, and look at this, page 6!

SUPA!

Dr.K

Tried a K&N FIPK kit on a focus...Drove it stock and Then with kit. Back to back. A little louder. Not much of a difference. Then Installed a Trueflow which uses the stock Airbox but replaces the plastic intake pipe with a powdercoated steel tube of larger diameter. Smooth bends. Felt it alot more. So the system is still a short ram but is sucking colder Air since the airbox is inplace and the filter isn't right out in the open. The onyl way to really test them in real world conditions would be to run both CAI and SR system's on the same car, same driver. Record the Quarter mile times. Then you Can accuratly guage gain's since the car is moving and going up and down through the gears...Not remaining staionary.

j_limitz

short ram intake = HOT air intake...which means power loss....cuz u'r just suckin gin all the warm air from your engine bay...get a cold air intake

imported_95bluelx

j_limitz, what's the matter with you man, have you not read debate on the previous five pages? If you're going to come in here and post something like that, back it up with facts, so far the only one to do this is loudsubz.

imported_loudsubz

thanks

I think some people just don't like to read, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I like a good debate when valid points are proven on both sides.

I wish I could do more of my own research but I dont have a temp probe to measure the temp in both locations, but if anyone does and wants to share they're findings that would be awesome to help add to this, maybe I'm wrong, and I will admit it if I saw negative results showing very high temps in the SRI area as well.

Hopefully we can get back on track and continue with this good debate.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

I'll eventaully datalog that info for you loudsubz...

imported_loudsubz

kew thanks B anything that may aide in this would be great

markpa

I just put on a cai(no name) on my car.....And love it sounds very nice as for preformance i dont notice any gains just louder when u romp on the gas. oh I forgot to add
I dont give a flying *** about this thread its pointless. Theres plenty of threads like this on Hondatech and they go nowhere also. No clear winner.

imported_loudsubz

great, its also pointless you pointed that out, you have bettered yourself in doing so

imported_gatherer

ok I read part of this and it made me laugh...

I've owned and used a AEM cold air intake...

if you were to put a AEM cold air intake on your car drive to the other side of the city on the highway get out open your hood and touch your intake you will burn your hand I've done it. so now we know that a cold air intake heats up just as much as a short ram intake whats the point? ohhh I know bring cooler air from outside the engine bay into the engine... right... do you what the heat transfer rate is like between metal and air? by the time that air reaches the throttle body is as warm as air in the engine bay.

the only difference between a cold air intake and a short ram intake is the length of the tube and no one has really proven if there is any real difference made to the torque curve (cause horsepower doesn't mean anything) based on the tube length of the intake (at least nothing I've seen if you have a link to such info please post it)


thats just my 2 cents worth take it for what you want.

imported_starboy869

Tuner preformance reports

SRI
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/sr-results.shtml

CAI
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/ca-results.shtml

Once again the full article can be found here:

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml

markpa

Your post was just as pointelss as mine.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

well he was merely pointing out that your opinionated post made no headway in the emperical analysis of the debate.

anyways, since I doubt we'll have any findings/revelations from this post, I'm closing it.