SiR JP

According to the instructions, my Comptech/Uni filter in my Icebox needs to be cleaned and re-oiled every 2nd oil change.

BBProductions

the material is the same as k&n - it is guaze and just like the k&n i can clean / oil them...
many filters you clean and re-use...

imported_kasimmmmm

short rams suck like there's no tomorrow.. and a waste of money. If you're gonna be getting an intake.... go with a CAI, AEM v2 or Injen.

imported_loudsubz

are you 100% sure its gauze, or just guessing

if it is paper like the OEM filter and you use the filter kit you can ruin it

imported_loudsubz

and you know this for a fact right? look at some dyno plots and don't belive what everyone tells you

BBProductions

yes they are guaze, you cnan tell... and i even doublec checked at the performanc ehsop and they too said hell just re-oil them...

imported_kasimmmmm

from personal experience, opinion... and its also a fact that SR end up sucking hot air once the engine warms up, robbing you of horsepower.

I had an Injen SR in my old 2000 accord, and all it did was make some noise. I later installed an AEM CAI and thats when i really saw results...

ELGUY

I've dealt with the same issue. From what i've seen, the cold air intake gives you better high end power, and at highway speeds. Neither intake will give you 20 hp, but the short ram to me seems to give you better low end throttle response. I had a 93 hatchback, with a short ram, and an intake that had material on the end of the filter. I ran some aluminum dryer ducting from behind the front bumper, up through the wheel well and fastened it to the front of the filter. It seemed to offer a bit of both worlds. Looked kinda thrown together though.

imported_loudsubz

well im just wondering where you threw fact in from? do you have dyno numbers to back up your claim? or is your "fact" really just what your friends told you, so now it must be true?

Ok since I am blabering on, I will add some proof, unlike many of the posts in here:

And no, when your driving your engine bay temp wont be that hot since air is coming into the bay. If you take a temperature probe and stick it in place you will see its not that hot in there.

RPM BASE HP INTAKE HP GAIN

This is for the intake that scored the highest in the CAI cat

Comptec
7500 136.4 137.7 8.9

Now for SRI

Weapon R intake
7000 128.5 138.8 10.3

2 other SRI by AEM, AC Auto and DC Dac scored within 0.1-0.2 HP less than the Weapon R intake

So what does this prove, the SRI had significant HP increase compared to the CAI units.

Now the HP wasnt in the same places on the dyno curves, but overall it shows which made the most HP and where.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

and that's where the probem lies... is the area under the curve!!! not just overall peak gains

besides, these tests are done with the hood up and massive fans blowing air into the engine bay. under those conditions, the SRI has lower pumping losses cuz it's shorter (think LOOOONG straw and thick milkshake vs. short straw, same milkshake. dyno results mean little when not performed by the individual using the product. I mean they offer an idea... but they cannot be taken at face value.

area under the curve is the only TRUE meaurement of performance gains.

imported_loudsubz

Ok thats fine.

I put together a chart showing the 2 top performers from each group. You can even see that the SRI had more HP all around.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

still the conditions of the dyno test favour the SRI because of the open hood and fans running cool air under the hood. that automatically negates the advantage that the cold air would naturally have. also the 4000+ rpm range hardly constitutes the "area under the curve"

imported_loudsubz

I don't know why your fighting it, just give in, you havn't posted any facts to back up either side

This is straight off the test page:

There is no OPEN HOOD

I admit heatsoak might come into play if you have your car idling alot and not driving (stop light to stop light)

but on the open road I would take a SRI over CAI easily.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

I don't need fact... my opinion is what REALLY matters haha one of my buddies stuck a filter right on his throttle body!!

very cool!! didn't do any dyno runs after that though.

to me the ultimate would be a ram air cold box with a panel filter and velocity-stack type plumbing to the throttle body.

well then loudsubz you could be right (if the hood was closed)... but I'd like to see the 2500-6500 rpm graphs too. cuz the intake velocity drops quite a bit in that range.

civic?eww?y?

For D17 Civics, and D16 civics...intakes do nothing.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

wait a second loudsubz!!! a 142 hp Civic pull on the dyno? that's jokes!!! what's the REAL story with that dyno y0!

imported_loudsubz

its a civic Si b16, 37k miles on the engine I think

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

well then that changes EVERYTHING hahaha j/k even so, that's a pretty strong B16A

imported_kasimmmmm

No offence man, but you need to take it easy... take a deep breath and relax... this is just a discussion, no need to get vezed about it. Also try to be a little open minded and and actually READ what people are writing.

Like I said... no friend told me this, if you actually try reading, you'll see that I had an SRI AND a CAI in my 2000 accord and what the results were...

And are you saying that the SRI doesn't have an issue of sucking hot air once the engine warms up?? And when this happens, you lose power???

anyhow... like a lot of people already mentioned... dyno tests favour SRI, and this isn't what a friend told me, its a fact.

imported_loudsubz

Who says I'm not taking it easy, its an internet forum I could give a rats behind of what goes on here, I am simply adding to the discussion with some facts rather than opinions.

I have read all of the posts, but I just fail to see how a "butt dyno" or a "feeling" makes any form of "proof" when it comes to something like this which deals with numbers.

If you read my posts I actually showed a graph, and said that with stop and go traffic you would probably feel the effects of heat soak, but when driving normally it would be the same from CAI and SRI as air is entering the engine bay and temp diff would be negligable, unless you have some super duper engine bay that is completely sealed off from the outside

I don't know why you say in your previous post:

but then reply with a:

Go figure. Show me some back to back dynos I would be lovin to see some

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Your beloved Audio mod