Quick_CX

i am hearing alot of good things and gains from redoing ur grounds...regrounding everything powertrain...some one fill me in please on benifits on doing this...and tech answer why?

imported_loudsubz

Im trying to figure this out myself. Im skeptical since the honda electrical system is pretty good as it is, and I only see upgrading the chasis to NEG terminal with a larger guage wire as a benefit, but I dont see how running multiple grounds from diff points on the engine to the NEG post would help much.

PULOVR

It would help if you don't want a theif bypassing the alarm system.


(multiply grounds means multiply wires for a thief to cut.)

Do the power too.

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

Prolly just a cleaner signal from the sensors to the ECU... that's my guess But again, not even the manufacturers like HKS have provided a reason behind it... kinda like the oil catch can from Greddy. Nice peice, but does it do anything?

donesixer

Hey Guys,
I did this quite some time ago. It worked. I kept it installed.
I have actually designed a kit that I will be selling. I have had some really good feedback so far.
This thread was going yesterday:
http://www.torontocivics.com/tccforu...threadid=20523
If you have any questions after this thread, ask away.

imported_loudsubz

How much for your kit?

donesixer

The pricing right now is set at $110.
That includes a machined aluminum common ground block, two weather-proofed 4-Guage wires and five weather-proofed 8-Guage wires. All mounting hardware is included. The block is designed so it doesn't show any bolts or mounting points. Very clean install.

imported_gatherer

adding more grounds to the engine helps create a better spark because it creates a more even removal of electical charge (conventional flow theory) or allows for more paths for electrons to flow to the spark plug (electron flow theory) it's like using thicker speaker wire.... more grounds are better to develop a bigger better spark... have fun ...

BOND007

I was just going to do it myself for like 25 bucks ...

Have wire at home thanks to a certain VELOZ....

all I need is his assisstance along with a few TRX

Whiplash

anytime yer ready pal..i'm gonna add to mine too..
lotsa spare wire too

BOND007

Maybe we can hook up early afternoon tomorrow

Biggy

do u have any pics of your kit.. if so email me kthx@cogeco.ca or post em here im interested in the ground kit, just dont wanna buy something i cant c =\

donesixer

I will post pics up soon, tonight or tomorrow.
I'll throw a post up in Classifieds. Small scale production has started already.

Whiplash

sounds good..
i have to be at X-R*ed for noon, but should be back in town 2ish??
gimme a holler and we'll hook-up..

BOND007

Are you expecting product in

Whiplash

not yet
going to get it checked out for the ram tho..but should have it by next week if all goes well....

imported_loudsubz

I just did this, only 3 wires so far, from TB, Intake, and vtec solenoid, and so far no diff that I can see. I spent $10 on the materials and have enought o make the 5 wires. I also upgraded my ground from battery to 2 awg and my POS to thr fuse box to 4 awg.

Anyone who pays more than $50 for a kit like this is crazy.

donesixer

OK, the main ones are the tranny, valve cover and the thermostat housing. This one is especially important as it is the ground reference for the ECU and sensors.
Now, tie it all back to one common point. Sand the contact points so you aren't trying to ground to paint or corrosion.
You will see a difference if you do it right.

imported_loudsubz

Already had 4 awg from valve cover to chasis, looking for my thermostat, but i doubt it is noticleable.

Like i said before, im skeptical as the electrical system is already fine on most cars.

imported_gatherer

try adding more grounds from the valve cover to the chassis ...you have what four bolts for the valve cover ground them all to the chassis....see if there is a difference then .. I don't think upgrading the other grounds would do much