Q on B-Series swap
#1
Q on B-Series swap
Hi all
Anyway for a 1st Gen B16 into a bubbleback (92-95) hatch, I know you need the integra axles and shifter linkages I believe, no mounts and hydraulic tranny. The computer can be chipped to work with that B16, but does anyone know what type of distributor you must use for this setup? Also would the distributor be a different one if I change the ECU to a b16 ecu or would they stil be the same ones if I use the old ecu or not. This is talking about an si model hatch.
Now one more thing, what extra wiring must be done if the hatch/coupe was a dx/cx/vx?
Anyway for a 1st Gen B16 into a bubbleback (92-95) hatch, I know you need the integra axles and shifter linkages I believe, no mounts and hydraulic tranny. The computer can be chipped to work with that B16, but does anyone know what type of distributor you must use for this setup? Also would the distributor be a different one if I change the ECU to a b16 ecu or would they stil be the same ones if I use the old ecu or not. This is talking about an si model hatch.
Now one more thing, what extra wiring must be done if the hatch/coupe was a dx/cx/vx?
#5
http://www.geocities.com/teampimports/b16amaint.html
IMO, the dizzy has the fit the head first.... the wiring is secondary since you can hack that part, but if the dizzy don't fit you're screwed.
IMO, just spend the money and go with the correct model B16A OBD1 for the chassis. You will do better in the long run. VX is wired for VTEC, but DX and CX models you have to add knock sensor, oil pressure, oil temp, and VTEC solenoid wiring. The hybrid resource has excellent writeups on this swap, including wiring, but everyone agrees you'll make your life a lot easier if you get the correct year B16A. For the record, OBD1 chassis can be fitted with OBD0 - I've seen it done before, but it's up to you to go through each component's wiring diagram and figure out what you need and don't need.
IMO, the dizzy has the fit the head first.... the wiring is secondary since you can hack that part, but if the dizzy don't fit you're screwed.
IMO, just spend the money and go with the correct model B16A OBD1 for the chassis. You will do better in the long run. VX is wired for VTEC, but DX and CX models you have to add knock sensor, oil pressure, oil temp, and VTEC solenoid wiring. The hybrid resource has excellent writeups on this swap, including wiring, but everyone agrees you'll make your life a lot easier if you get the correct year B16A. For the record, OBD1 chassis can be fitted with OBD0 - I've seen it done before, but it's up to you to go through each component's wiring diagram and figure out what you need and don't need.
#7
NON- recomended swaps:
b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx
b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic
b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic
preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.
Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.
I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.
Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.
The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.
if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22
if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a
as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.
Information on Engines, ECU's, and Transmissions can all be found on the site in the reference section.
^^^from Hondaswap
b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx
b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic
b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic
preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.
Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.
I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.
Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.
The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.
if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22
if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a
as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.
Information on Engines, ECU's, and Transmissions can all be found on the site in the reference section.
^^^from Hondaswap
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