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Old 03-Apr-2006, 01:58 PM
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Power steering to Non power steering conversion

So over the weekend, with the help of Scott Newman (once again, great work), my car has converted from PS to Non-PS.

The car felt as if I had PS again, which explains that driving a PS car without the belt is that much harder. Car needs alignment but that's understood.

The racks look different, for sure; and the steering linkages are different.
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Old 03-Apr-2006, 03:13 PM
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be prepared to pay alot of money.
the job is labour intensive
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is it lighter without the ps?
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Old 03-Apr-2006, 03:54 PM
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I bought the rack off of a guy on TCC, he parted out his EK hatch.

As for labour, contact Scott Newman, I am sure what I paid for was more than fair enough and anyone would agree with me on that price.
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Originally posted by RDub99
is it lighter without the ps?
If by lighter you mean the weight, yes it is, even the rack itself is lighter.

But steering feel, it is lighter than driving with out the belt.

So PS>Non PS>PS w/o belt
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust


If by lighter you mean the weight, yes it is, even the rack itself is lighter.

But steering feel, it is lighter than driving with out the belt.

So PS>Non PS>PS w/o belt
I am sure you have read about this but many people have connected the 2 outlets on the PS rack to a T fitting and then to a small reservoir and bled off as much PS fluid in the rack as possible and many said it felt alot easier to turn there PS rack (w/o belt on) than if you just remove the belt and leave the stock lines there.
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I am sure you have read about this but many people have connected the 2 outlets on the PS rack to a T fitting and then to a small reservoir and bled off as much PS fluid in the rack as possible and many said it felt alot easier to turn there PS rack (w/o belt on) than if you just remove the belt and leave the stock lines there.
Yes I have, but usually that can only be done when you have the engine removed, there is just very little and next to no room if you want to work below the brake booster. I mean, you could, but if the car is up on the hoist, you might as well remove the rack.

Labour cost will be roughly the same, and so are parts. It was a toss up for me, but I choose the swap. Less hose/lines to worry about in the engine bay.
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If by lighter you mean the weight, yes it is, even the rack itself is lighter.

But steering feel, it is lighter than driving with out the belt.

So PS>Non PS>PS w/o belt
nice! two for one!
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what are the plus' to having NO power steering???

i was gonna switch back to PS cuz my cx didnt come with it....but if there are gains to having no PS then i'm interested
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I think mainly the reason people take it out is that it makes the car lighter
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you get a few ponies because you're not driving the pump anymore, but driving a PS rack without the pump is annoying, esp, city driving where you need to make on-the-spot turns and what not.

Rack & pinon is perfect, doesn't rob power, it's lighter apparently, and it's managible.
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Originally posted by RDub99
I think mainly the reason people take it out is that it makes the car lighter
that and the fact that you have more feel of the car. better for track application.
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that and the fact that you have more feel of the car. better for track application.
ahh, right on
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