Performance Upgrades on 93 Hatch (Help)
21-Apr-2006, 02:08 AM
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b16s are capable engines with a solid tranny, but the lack the bottom end power that b18s more than make up. b18c5 pulls the hardest stock... but its like a $5,000 swap.... but i would go b18c1(gsr) because you could get the motor installed and with another $2000 worth of tuning and headwork (dual-valve springs, titanium retainers, camshafts, cam geras, upgraded vales) and as long as you have the I/H/E combo and a skunk2 style manifold(gsr stock one is pretty limiting)... you should be pushing 180+whp.... and running the 1/4 mile in high 13's to low 14's (more than likely with the higher compression from the valves you'll be under 14)... for $5000, well maybe a little over, your car would be lightning fast... oh, i suggest SIR tranny if you want quick off the line. and should i say that you would be revving to like 8500-9000 rpm with a rev limiter of around 8700-9200... with the headwork you'll be built enough to make power that high... now, that sounds like a better deal for me.
21-Apr-2006, 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
b16s are capable engines with a solid tranny, but the lack the bottom end power that b18s more than make up. b18c5 pulls the hardest stock... but its like a $5,000 swap.... but i would go b18c1(gsr) because you could get the motor installed and with another $2000 worth of tuning and headwork and as long as you have the I/H/E combo and a skunk2 style manifold... you should be pushing 180+whp.... and running the 1/4 mile in high 13's to low 14's... for $5000, your car would be lightning fast... oh, i suggest SIR tranny if you want quick off the line. and should i say that you would be revving to like 8500-9000 rpm with a rev limiter of around 8700-9200... with the headwork you'll be built enough to make power that high... now, that sounds like a better deal for me.
b16s are capable engines with a solid tranny, but the lack the bottom end power that b18s more than make up. b18c5 pulls the hardest stock... but its like a $5,000 swap.... but i would go b18c1(gsr) because you could get the motor installed and with another $2000 worth of tuning and headwork and as long as you have the I/H/E combo and a skunk2 style manifold... you should be pushing 180+whp.... and running the 1/4 mile in high 13's to low 14's... for $5000, your car would be lightning fast... oh, i suggest SIR tranny if you want quick off the line. and should i say that you would be revving to like 8500-9000 rpm with a rev limiter of around 8700-9200... with the headwork you'll be built enough to make power that high... now, that sounds like a better deal for me.
I'm still debating which rims to get/suspension. I was thinking air ride ( but im hearing the ride style is...rough. then again its not for riding quality )
21-Apr-2006, 02:21 AM
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b18c1... thats all u need... with the headowork i listed and tuning... and as long as u have intake, headers and exhaust done... and the skunk2 intake manifold...you will have too much power... air ride is too rough, just go with a full coilover set-up check like teknotik.com or optionjdm.com they have good deals on coilovers... you can get a slammed ride but with a decent ride still... and upgrade your brakes too!!!
21-Apr-2006, 02:23 AM
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Going too fast, you need something to slow you down haha of course. So skip the air ride, understandable.
Realistically, I want as much as humanly possible out of all this. A few ppl suggested a h22, I know the price is steep. what do you think of the h22?
Realistically, I want as much as humanly possible out of all this. A few ppl suggested a h22, I know the price is steep. what do you think of the h22?
21-Apr-2006, 09:36 AM
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h22 is a strong motor with lots of potential, but then you have to worry about getting stiffer springs in the front, or just make sure u have full coilovers because it will weigh your front down more so you need to even it out, but i think the motor is too heavy IMO for a good weight balance... even the b18c1 is heavy, but not too bad...
also, if you look at what the b18c1 puts out in actually whp on the dyno to what the h22 puts to the wheels on the dyno, is not too far off from each other... the h22 looses more hp through the tranny and stuff than the b18c1 does and funny enough, their stock dyno numbers are not too far off... and the gsr has some simple upgrades like just the intake manifold to the skunk2 style (aftermarket is like $150 for the intake manifold) and it will make a diff in the power you are putting out.
also, if you look at what the b18c1 puts out in actually whp on the dyno to what the h22 puts to the wheels on the dyno, is not too far off from each other... the h22 looses more hp through the tranny and stuff than the b18c1 does and funny enough, their stock dyno numbers are not too far off... and the gsr has some simple upgrades like just the intake manifold to the skunk2 style (aftermarket is like $150 for the intake manifold) and it will make a diff in the power you are putting out.
21-Apr-2006, 03:19 PM
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im pretty sure h22 isnt heavier than the other motors. theres a thread out there and apparently its just a myth.
honeslty, if your serious about performace save for another 6 months and drop the 9-10k required for a k20 swap. these engines are much more responsive to bolt ons and is now the swap to have.
honeslty, if your serious about performace save for another 6 months and drop the 9-10k required for a k20 swap. these engines are much more responsive to bolt ons and is now the swap to have.
21-Apr-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by kwasley
im pretty sure h22 isnt heavier than the other motors. theres a thread out there and apparently its just a myth.
honeslty, if your serious about performace save for another 6 months and drop the 9-10k required for a k20 swap. these engines are much more responsive to bolt ons and is now the swap to have.
im pretty sure h22 isnt heavier than the other motors. theres a thread out there and apparently its just a myth.
honeslty, if your serious about performace save for another 6 months and drop the 9-10k required for a k20 swap. these engines are much more responsive to bolt ons and is now the swap to have.
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