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Nova_Dust 05-Jul-2006 10:57 AM

PENNZOILŪ SYNCHROMESH transmission fluid
 
I would love to give this fluid a try. Does anyone have any contact on this fluid? Any Affiliate that sells this?

Thanks

bbarbulo 05-Jul-2006 02:24 PM

I hear you can get it at Walmart.

Nova_Dust 05-Jul-2006 02:36 PM

Cool bro, that's a good start. Thanks

Nova_Dust 05-Jul-2006 05:59 PM

Went to one Walmart, doesn't have it. But I read it in one of the TCC archive that Pennzoil is the same as GM Synchromesh. Whichever one I can buy I will use.

cee_mon 05-Jul-2006 06:31 PM

^ yup...
Same as the AC delco one aswell.

GM dealership should sell it, as the one in barrie does.

Price i think is around 8-10 a litre.

imported_mugen_r 05-Jul-2006 08:33 PM


Originally posted by Cee_mon
^ yup...
Same as the AC delco one aswell.

GM dealership should sell it, as the one in barrie does.

Price i think is around 8-10 a litre.


The AC Delco bottle is the same thing as the GM synchromesh, just the AC label put on the GM label. Bought 3 bottles last week and seen it.

Decent fluid, didn't fix my grind tho lol

imported_d16y8 05-Jul-2006 08:44 PM

GM synchromesh with the friction additive or whatever fixed my nasty first to second grind. A little expensive but its cheaper than a tranny. I paid $17 a litre.

imported_monsoon 05-Jul-2006 11:15 PM

I went to GM 2 weeks ago and got 3L of their syncromesh tranny fluid, which turned out to be made by AC DELCO. It cost me a little over $32.

I looked everywhere for the pennzoil stuff because it's the same thing and supposedly a little cheaper but I couldn't find it anywhere.

It has completely covered up the 3rd and slight 5th gear grind I had in my B series tranny after about a day of driving.

I'm going to keep using this stuff and hopefully the grind doesn't come back any time soon.

(it wasn't the friction modified stuff)

Mr. Death 06-Jul-2006 12:30 AM

PENNZOILŪ SYNCHROMESH, GM synchromesh, Texaco syncromesh, as well as AC Delco syncromesh. are all the same. Here's agood read on the subject.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-pennzoil-synchromesh.htm

Nova_Dust 06-Jul-2006 09:38 AM

I went to the GM dealer at Woodbine/7 (their shop closes at 9pm) and bought the Synchromesh Friction Modified, 3 bottles of 1 liter bottle and each bottle is like 14.99. Total came out to 50 something.

Dude was like, you buying this for a Honda? He said the only customers that come in and buy this fluid are Honda guys.

I will do a tranny flush+filter and also clutch fluid change next week. See how that goes.

markpa 06-Jul-2006 01:38 PM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust


Dude was like, you buying this for a Honda? He said the only customers that come in and buy this fluid are Honda guys.


LOL right on.:thumbup:

imported_SaYjAiBaO 06-Jul-2006 01:44 PM

what good is this fluid???

btw nova i saw u last night on the 401 nova dust. im like hmmm who has bronze and white rims on a purple ek.....nice car man. i was the one chasing u in the white civic lol.

Nova_Dust 06-Jul-2006 02:26 PM

DAMN!!!! it was you??? Awesome man. Nice to meet you.

Ya, whatever we did on the highway, no one needs to know haha.

You are missing a corner light?

Nova_Dust 06-Jul-2006 02:28 PM

As for the fluid, this is formulated for GM truck transmission, some heavy duty stuff and apparently, it can fix/hide some grinding issues.

imported_mikepasini 06-Jul-2006 07:49 PM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust
As for the fluid, this is formulated for GM truck transmission, some heavy duty stuff and apparently, it can fix/hide some grinding issues.

charles please let me know how this works out... you aren't running an lsd right now, are you?

anyone think this stuff is worth a try in a jdm gsr lsd tranny? i have no grinds really, but its feeling a little stiff to put in gear sometimes...

imported_2join performance 06-Jul-2006 08:04 PM

If its heavy duty then it must be thicker right? Would that not mean it is harder for the tranny to operate due to the thickness of the oil, and would it not result in some loss of power and/or lower gas mileage?

markpa 06-Jul-2006 08:53 PM


Originally posted by mikepasini



charles please let me know how this works out... you aren't running an lsd right now, are you?

anyone think this stuff is worth a try in a jdm gsr lsd tranny? i have no grinds really, but its feeling a little stiff to put in gear sometimes...

If your tranny is fine, i wouldnt use this stuff, just use honda mtf. But If u have a small grind etc...then it does help.

imported_SaYjAiBaO 06-Jul-2006 09:33 PM

how much does this stuff cost? i have a slight grind in second gear, maybe i should try this stuff out.

yeah i'm missing a corner light, it still flashes but the running light burnt out.

imported_Cam Stableford 07-Jul-2006 03:39 AM

Amsoil MTF, at Dealer Cost, is only $8.10 / quart.

Try it ... you won't be disappointed.


Cheers
pickme:
Cam

Nova_Dust 07-Jul-2006 02:54 PM


Originally posted by mikepasini



charles please let me know how this works out... you aren't running an lsd right now, are you?

anyone think this stuff is worth a try in a jdm gsr lsd tranny? i have no grinds really, but its feeling a little stiff to put in gear sometimes...

I have a clutch type LSD.

Tranny fluid should be done next week, I will post result.

Nova_Dust 07-Jul-2006 02:54 PM


Originally posted by SaYjAiBaO
how much does this stuff cost? i have a slight grind in second gear, maybe i should try this stuff out.

yeah i'm missing a corner light, it still flashes but the running light burnt out.

14.99 at Woodbine/Hwy 7 GM dealer.

Nova_Dust 07-Jul-2006 02:56 PM


Originally posted by Cam Stableford
Amsoil MTF, at Dealer Cost, is only $8.10 / quart.

Try it ... you won't be disappointed.


Cheers
pickme:
Cam

Indeed, I thought about Amsoil and Motul, but seems like GM stuff has lots of good review hence I jumped on the bandwagon.

If this doesn't work out, I will try Amsoil fluid. That's definitely cheaper than GM product.

Nova_Dust 07-Jul-2006 02:58 PM


Originally posted by Premium Dude
If its heavy duty then it must be thicker right? Would that not mean it is harder for the tranny to operate due to the thickness of the oil, and would it not result in some loss of power and/or lower gas mileage?
I am using Kaaz fluid, which if I remember correctly, is 80w-90. That could be one of the reason why I grind at 3rd because the fluid is thick, who knows. But if I cant' make a smooth shift at 3rd even at 6500rpm, that's gonna suck.

l2iceman 08-Jul-2006 09:21 PM

hey, would the Friction Modified Syncrhomesh be the same price at all GM dealers? or do dealerships sell the products on their own markup?

cuz I'll probaly hit up a Chevy dealer near Woodbine Centre since i think thas the closest GM dealer...

but yea, Nova_dust, if you can keep us posted on whether it actually reduces grinding that'd be great!

oh, and i checked my tranny fluid, it had like some metal pieces, tiny ones, when i do my tranny fluid change, should i do a tranny flush? or would draining it and puttin in the new tranny fluid be enough?

imported_Cam Stableford 12-Jul-2006 01:15 PM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust


14.99 at Woodbine/Hwy 7 GM dealer.

.... that's insane ....

Cheers
pickme:
Cam

Nova_Dust 20-Jul-2006 01:51 PM

The fluid was changed yesterday. My clutch/brake fluid was pretty much black...

I did feel so sort of relief in gear change, but it has only been less than 50km. Next time, I will try full synthetic product since GM is only semi synthetic.

Nova_Dust 21-Jul-2006 02:08 PM

After 100+ km of driving, I did notice some shifting difference. But, I was using Kaaz fluid (so I was told) and it is a 80w-90 fluid versus the semi-synthetic. Maybe the fluid was too thick until you really warm up the car?

But at any rate, I felt a difference. Let's see how well it does after 500km, most people say after that, you really notice the difference.

imported_Cam Stableford 21-Jul-2006 04:48 PM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust
After 100+ km of driving, I did notice some shifting difference. But, I was using Kaaz fluid (so I was told) and it is a 80w-90 fluid versus the semi-synthetic. Maybe the fluid was too thick until you really warm up the car?

But at any rate, I felt a difference. Let's see how well it does after 500km, most people say after that, you really notice the difference.

I'm not putting down what you're using, but why the 80w90 weight? Amsoil MTF is 5W30 ... big difference.

Cheers
pickme:
Cam

imported_jdm ek4 07-Aug-2006 03:29 AM

Has anyone tried the Royal purple tranny fluid? I was told to try the Royal Purple ATF fluid.

1EL2NV 07-Aug-2006 10:56 AM

IF ANYONE NEEDS THE GM PART # ITS 89021808 AND IT SHOULD SELL FOR $9.60 PER LITRE(THATS WHAT I SELL IT FOR)

imported_mikepasini 07-Aug-2006 12:15 PM

that sounds like the price for just synchromesh... there is two... synchromesh and friction modified

imported_jdm ek4 08-Aug-2006 03:24 AM

So no one has tried this Royal Purple ATF fluid for their tranny? Doesnt the ATF stand for automatic transmission fluid? Even tho my tranny is manual would this stuff work with it?

imported_mikepasini 08-Aug-2006 08:39 AM

noooo... don't use ATF with a manual tranny. they each have different properties in the oil, so only use MTF with a manual tranny.

if you want to try something other than Honda MTF, then you can try GM syncromesh and its pretty good, but a little pricey at 14.90/bottle... well, thats the friction modified one as well.

Nova_Dust 08-Aug-2006 09:21 AM


Originally posted by Cam Stableford


I'm not putting down what you're using, but why the 80w90 weight? Amsoil MTF is 5W30 ... big difference.

Cheers
pickme:
Cam

That's what Kaaz recommended when using their own LSD, that's what the mechanic used/told me so I could only go by his words.

imported_Cam Stableford 09-Aug-2006 02:42 AM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust


That's what Kaaz recommended when using their own LSD, that's what the mechanic used/told me so I could only go by his words.

Interesting.

imported_Moe_Mentum 11-Oct-2006 03:56 PM

Hey Charles what's the update with the GM Syncromesh? I have a slight 3rd gear grind and I was thinking of buying this stuff soon. I am pretty much going to go by your word here :)


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