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imported_killer_ssn 17-Sep-2007 04:08 AM

oil
 
hey guys what kind of oil are you using?

i lived by Mobil 1 syn for years and just switched to amsoil full syn. whats better?

VTEC_Thunder 17-Sep-2007 08:48 AM

amsoil, mobil1, and castrol syntec imo are the best you can buy.

polska_01 17-Sep-2007 10:59 AM

i use only Valvoline! full syn

imported_chris_v2 17-Sep-2007 04:41 PM

valvoline regular 5w30..

dont know why people run synthetics. Even when I do a customers boost project I always recommend 10w40 reg.

Civics last like 400,000km running regular oil, and last 200,000km+ without sludge buildup. Why people 'upgrade' is beyond me.

imported_2join performance 17-Sep-2007 08:00 PM

I have used Castrol Syntec to date, however next season I will be switching to Amsoil. 10w40 grade with a HAMP filter.

polska_01 17-Sep-2007 10:01 PM

better safe than sorry! and honestly i have the extra cash to boot so i buy full syn anyways! it is better than regular oil by far without getting technical we all know why! if you dont use google lol

Tyson09 17-Sep-2007 11:29 PM


Originally posted by chris_v2
valvoline regular 5w30..

dont know why people run synthetics. Even when I do a customers boost project I always recommend 10w40 reg.

Civics last like 400,000km running regular oil, and last 200,000km+ without sludge buildup. Why people 'upgrade' is beyond me.

well said...its what i run.

Cynikal.Mindset 18-Sep-2007 04:07 AM

whatever is on sale

before synthetic oil people used dino oil and cars lasted forever...good enough for me

imported_chris_v2 18-Sep-2007 07:26 AM


Originally posted by polska_01
better safe than sorry!

safe than sorry? For what? Running the oil that the manufacter recommends to run? I'm not going to argue with your decision to run syn. but don't think that conventional oil is bad for your motor. The only way I can possibly see myself use synthetic is if I was heavily into tracking days.. even then, I think I would get an oil cooler before doing the switch.

VTEC_Thunder 18-Sep-2007 10:52 AM


Originally posted by chris_v2



safe than sorry? For what? Running the oil that the manufacter recommends to run? I'm not going to argue with your decision to run syn. but don't think that conventional oil is bad for your motor. The only way I can possibly see myself use synthetic is if I was heavily into tracking days.. even then, I think I would get an oil cooler before doing the switch.

Regular oil is not 'bad' for your engine...but full synthetic oils are better. They do the same job as regular oil only they do it better. they last longer and endure more severe conditions for longer periods of time.

polska_01 18-Sep-2007 11:48 AM

I never said there bad at all! synthetics are better so i buy it i do spend money on my car and quit a bit that is. So i dont mind buying full syn im not cutting up people who use regular oil by all means go ahead! cars lasted a very long time on conventional before synthetic was made

VTEC_Thunder 18-Sep-2007 12:52 PM

^^ True engines lasted a long time on dino oil. But they had to change that oil alot more often.

1sloweg 18-Sep-2007 11:15 PM

Synthetic oil should go in vehicles that REQUIRE synthetic oil. Synthetic oil cars run tighter bearing clearances due to the molecular structure of synthetic oil. It has smaller molecules that fit in those tight spaces. When you have motors that are meant to run on regular oil, the bearing clearances are a bit looser. Oil is only good for 5000km i dont care what kind it is. Ive pulled many motors that have run nothing but synthetic and many motors that customers have done regular oil changes and you CANNOT tell the difference. But hey, if somebody makes a prety bottle and says youll make more power and blah blah blah any rice boy here is going to get technical on what they have no clue about. So waste your money on synthetic oil if you want, but unless you own a Ferrari, corvette or any car where the oil cap tells you put synthetic in it; dont waste your money.

imported_chris_v2 19-Sep-2007 07:29 AM


Originally posted by 1sloweg
Synthetic oil should go in vehicles that REQUIRE synthetic oil. Synthetic oil cars run tighter bearing clearances due to the molecular structure of synthetic oil. It has smaller molecules that fit in those tight spaces. When you have motors that are meant to run on regular oil, the bearing clearances are a bit looser. Oil is only good for 5000km i dont care what kind it is. Ive pulled many motors that have run nothing but synthetic and many motors that customers have done regular oil changes and you CANNOT tell the difference. But hey, if somebody makes a prety bottle and says youll make more power and blah blah blah any rice boy here is going to get technical on what they have no clue about. So waste your money on synthetic oil if you want, but unless you own a Ferrari, corvette or any car where the oil cap tells you put synthetic in it; dont waste your money.
Funny how the educated guys always agree...

Cynikal.Mindset 19-Sep-2007 10:57 AM

canola oil ftw!!!

VTEC_Thunder 20-Sep-2007 01:46 PM


Originally posted by 1sloweg
Synthetic oil should go in vehicles that REQUIRE synthetic oil. Synthetic oil cars run tighter bearing clearances due to the molecular structure of synthetic oil. It has smaller molecules that fit in those tight spaces. When you have motors that are meant to run on regular oil, the bearing clearances are a bit looser. Oil is only good for 5000km i dont care what kind it is. Ive pulled many motors that have run nothing but synthetic and many motors that customers have done regular oil changes and you CANNOT tell the difference. But hey, if somebody makes a prety bottle and says youll make more power and blah blah blah any rice boy here is going to get technical on what they have no clue about. So waste your money on synthetic oil if you want, but unless you own a Ferrari, corvette or any car where the oil cap tells you put synthetic in it; dont waste your money.
Synthetic oils are not a scam. I don't know why you keep pushing that on everyone. Use what ever oil you want.

Run two similar engines, one on dino oil and the other on full synthetic as long as they can at wide open throttle and see which one blows first.

I do ALOT of driving and I can't afford to do an oil change every month or two...so I use full synthetic and go twice as far and the oil comes out looking great at 8000 to 10,000kms. I tried it with regular oil when I first bought my car and it looked like black paint after 6000kms.

As I said before, there is nothing wrong with normal oil if you change it regularly. I have my reasons for using full synthetic. Simple as that.

imported_chris_v2 20-Sep-2007 02:21 PM


Originally posted by VTEC_Thunder
Run two similar engines, one on dino oil and the other on full synthetic as long as they can at wide open throttle and see which one blows first.

okay.. give me the keys to your car. I'll try it out.

I dont even see a point in posting that? Who's going to try that? What makes you think synthetic will last longer?

szuberi 20-Sep-2007 02:29 PM

useless bickering....run what you like

quaker state is good too

VTEC_Thunder 20-Sep-2007 03:41 PM


Originally posted by chris_v2


okay.. give me the keys to your car. I'll try it out.

I dont even see a point in posting that? Who's going to try that? What makes you think synthetic will last longer?

I posted it as an idea of how to test the different oils, which has been done btw. (the synthetic lasted considerably longer).

Did you not read what else I wrote??? I used regular oil when I first bought my car and after 6000km's the oil looked like shat. I switched to Mobil 1 and after 8000km's it still looked great (still useful).

To me, that tells me full synthetic lasts longer.

Maybe you found different in your car, I don't know. Neither do I care.

I'm just saying synthetic is better for my application.

Use what ever oil you want.

imported_honda1b6a 20-Sep-2007 04:24 PM

Walmart oil FTW, use it in my car and jeep, change every 3000km.


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