imported_Cam Stableford

As you know, I like to get comments about Amsoil products from my customers, as well as use them if possible on my web site. Here's an interesting story I got last week from a customer....

http://carst.ca/customers.htm

He has an '89 Pontiac Firebird that likes to burn oil. Like half a litre every 1,000 km or so. He had purchased a supply of 20W50 motorcycle oil for his Harley Buell a few months back. When it came time to change the oil in the Buell, he decided (instead of disposing of the used oil) to keep it on hand to top up the Firebird when needed.

Well, guess what ... the Firebird stopped buring oil when he started topping up with the "used" Amsoil.

I'm not sure whether I'm more impressed with the results Amsoil is giving this fellow, or his frugal approach and resourcefulness in re-using the Amsoil.

Just thought I would share.

Cheers

Cam

Cynikal.Mindset

i'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that is was amsoil...but whatever floats your boat...we sell it, people like it...puts money in my pocket

imported_Moe_Mentum

I am still on my first oil change with Amsoil. So far so good. I plan on doing my seond oil change soon. But I can honestly say that using this oil has increased my fuel mileage by around 2-3km\litre. Without any other changes.

chris_si98

so the oil rebuilds engines?

omggggggggggg

dingus888

maybe it was the fact that the oil is think as glue..??

used oil it gonna seal worn valve guids and add worn metal back to the piston rings and cylinders


this story might be true if the motor was full or garbage sludge adn the oil cleaned is away abit and it was thinker so.....

imported_Cam Stableford

It is well known that Amsoil will reduce or eliminate burning which is due to evaporation.

... no, it does not rebuild engines .... but don't underestimate what changing the quality and type of lubrication can do for your motor ... the above story is simply a testiment to the fact that, even "used", Amsoil is still capable of adding improved performance qualities to a motor that dino oils cannot, even when fresh from the bottle

imported_xplizitremix

i use amsoil
no problems so far
running well

going for my oil change soon

1sloweg

Yeah, hwo about the fact that it was 20w50.... a dino oil would have made that thing stop burning oil with it that thick. Amsoil is not as good as you think it is. Go to the mechanics , engine builders and we will all tell you otherwise. Unless the motor was built for it (as in tighter clearances) then use the motor oil the FACTORY tells you to use. For example, new cobalt ss supercharged use mobil 1 from the factory. If you baught one, you should use what the factoy says the motor is built for. ****, most engine rebuilders void warrenty if synthetic oil is used. But hey, as long as these saps keep paying over 10 bucks a litre and god knows how much for a filter then keep selling it. As for this bs that the motor does not create sludge the oil does, this is the biggest load of crap ive ever heard. As a mechanic I can tell you sludge is not due to the oil itself. Oil itself never goes bad, its the detergents and additives that are within the oil that disipate, burn off, blah blah blah. Spots such as the top of the cylinder walls where for a split second the rings do not ride on the film of oil due to the piston speed coming to a halt for a fraction of a second and the rings then SCRAPING the cylinder walls for example are all ways oil sludge is built up. Most of our cars were designed for use with regular run of the mill 5w30 and if your car is over 100,000km switch to 10w30. Save your money and dont be led into the scam that so many of my customers have been led to believe.

chris_si98

i doubt used amsoil is better than dino oil


-editted so it came out a bit nicer

imported_Cam Stableford

The motor creates the sludge? So, you're saying it's not the oil? Does that mean that if we run the motor dry (without oil) it will create the sludge all by itself?

There is no car maker that can void a warranty if you are using lubricants which meet their specifications.

You keep saying that synthetics can only be used in motors designed for synthetics. I think that's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Engines are not designed to meets the needs of available lubricants .... lubricants are designed to meet the needs of the engine.

Anyone who takes the time to study the available research will conclude that sythetics will do a superior job of protecting your motor. Take a look at the label on virtually every syn oil availble, from any oil manufacturer. They all say that "syn outperforms conventional oils"..... are you right in what you say? and all the oil manufacturers are wrong with the blatant promotion of a big scam?

Cam

imported_Cam Stableford

What would lead you to your conclusion?

1sloweg

Do you have any automotive engine experiance.....

Are you a mechanic....

Do you know about bearing clearance, surface variations.......


Your an amsoil dealer , your job is to sell amsoil and 10 bucks or whatever it is per litre to rice boys on this board who think it will make their car go faster.

newman

Amazing, but you forgot about getting juiced for another $10 for the filter.

imported_Cam Stableford

It seems that each time I post something positive about Amsoil, you are bent and determined to discount it based on your superior knowledge of "things mechanical" as an engine builder. I do not dispute that you may be crafted in your skill, but at the same time would suggest that you are not necessarily an individual we might look to for authoritative final answers to the value of synthetic lubricants. And, in case you were wondering ... I am NOT a mechanic, and I don't even know what a surface variation is! ... BUT, I rely on the research and experience of those who are directly involved in the oil industy, and you can bet your buns that they DO know. I'm not a doctor either, but I can tell you when my leg is broken. More importantly, I rely on the experience of Amsoil users, which confirms and supports the superior abilities of this lubricant. Any statement I make about Amsoil can be backed up by independant research and user experience.

There has been a ton of research done, by Amsoil, as well as others, on synthetic lubrication, with the overwhelming conclusion that synthetic lubricants provide superior protection for engines. This includes in the laboratory, as well as in the field. Can you please explain to me all these researchers came to the wrong conclusion?

Do you think that those involved in the research and develpment of synthetic lubricants are not familiar with bearing clearances, surface variations, etc. ?

Since every major oil company followed Amsoils lead into the synthetic lubricant market, are they all wrong in stating that synthetic lubricants outperform conventional oils? ... is it just a giant conspiracy theory at work?

When Amsoil publishes independant test results, providing comparison with other competitive products, why do these companies (including all the giants) not dispute the published Amsoil material?

ALL the claims which Amsoil makes about the benefits of using synthetic lubricants are supported daily by thousands and thousands of customers across the North American continent.

Since 1972, when Amsoil was the first synthetic auto lubricant (meeting API / SAE standards) to be introduced in the market, it has warranted it's motor oil for 25,000 miles. There has never been a warranty claim, or engine failure attributed to Amsoil.

My own customers on this forum report positive results with Amsoil, including smoother operatons, and improved fuel economy.

You see, my friend, there is just too much scientific and experiential evidence which supports the conclusion that consumers can benefit from using synthetic lubricants, through improved performance and longer engine life.

Use it, or don't use it. I don't care, but if you'd point me in the direction of the same magnitude of evidence which disputes what I have said, I'm sure I'd enjoy the read.

... and BTW, thanks for telling me what my job is ... I was so confused ...

Cheers

Cam

BoneStock'88er

I think all the ranting should end, none of you work for a major oil company nor do any of you do extensive testing and research on all the major leading oils. Unless any of you do than why keep this going.

All Cam did was post a story of what his customer did and most of you have found some way to bash the poor guy for it.

VTEC_Thunder

^^ No kidding....lol

Lets put it this way....if you really want to see the difference from regular cheap oil to more expensive full synthetic oils like amsoil....

Try running your engine on reg cheap oil 10,000+km's and then try doing it on full synthetic...like mobil 1 or amsoil.....see what happens...

I'll just say this: you get what you pay for.

I do ALOT of driving....I end up going near 10,000km's between oil changes with my b16. The oil that was originally in the engine when I bought it (it had an oil change the day I bought it) after 5-6000km's it looked like black paint and was down a litre.

I now use Mobil 1 and ever since I can go 8-10,000km's easy between oil changes and the oil that comes out after still looks pretty good....still amber and transparent.

Thats what I found.....if other ppl find otherwise....thats fine....

Cynikal.Mindset

oil changes are oil changes...do them at the required intervals for whatever your driving style and oil use calls for and you're good to go...its really all the same in the end

imported_alwaysoverkill

it likely stopped burning so much oil cause its thick as hell end of story. Its not AMSOIL being a magic oil or bad oil, its that the guy used thick oil.

Why do they allow sponsors to advertise in the threads, is there not a groupbuy and sponsor section for this? seems like there is always a sponsor that starts a thread title with some bogus title, then its blah, blah, blah my product is best and available here.

imported_rbjeepthing

^ I would agree any motor that is designed to run 10w30 and burns oil would stop burning oil if you put in 20w50. Hell in my buddies *****'s when the rings let go we put gear oil in it to get it off the trail and it ran great! The gear oil was 90w120

chris_si98

is your oil filter rated to last 10,000km too?

I will never understand why people "upgrade" their lubricant from what the manufacter specs are.