new engine recommendation - 98si
#22
i havent read through the thread but I'll give my input.
I'd get a full b18b swap (which im sure somebody else has already mentioned). It's great for city driving (when compared to our d16's) you'll feel like you have a lot more power in the low/mid range. And with the longer gears of the LS tranny you'll still be getting wicked gas mileage (assuming you use the p75 ecu and do a fresh tune-up)
If you are paying for install.. i would assume it would be around $2000 maybe a TAD more if you get a clutch kit, timing belt, water pump, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, pcv, etc.
I'd get a full b18b swap (which im sure somebody else has already mentioned). It's great for city driving (when compared to our d16's) you'll feel like you have a lot more power in the low/mid range. And with the longer gears of the LS tranny you'll still be getting wicked gas mileage (assuming you use the p75 ecu and do a fresh tune-up)
If you are paying for install.. i would assume it would be around $2000 maybe a TAD more if you get a clutch kit, timing belt, water pump, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, pcv, etc.
#23
the B18B should get better fuel economy vs a D16 cuz you rev it lower to get the same torque. if you drive both the same way, the B18B gets you better mileage...
JookSingKid saw better fuel economy with a B20/GSR tranny combo over his original Z6 (something like 625kms vs. 500 kms).
JookSingKid saw better fuel economy with a B20/GSR tranny combo over his original Z6 (something like 625kms vs. 500 kms).
#25
displacement isn't linearly related to the amount of fuel consumed.
think.... does a crown vic with a 4.6 L engine consume 3 times as much gas as a 1.5 liter civic? no it doesn't. it consumes more gasoline mainly for the reason that it has nearly double the weight to move around... that is not to say that a 4.6 liter in a Civic would consume less gas since there is an efficiency loss with more cylinders... however there is a 'breaking point' where more displacement would actually mean lower consumption and I think in practical terms, the 1.8 L or even a 2.0 liter Civic would qualify. JSK for those who know him used to be all about fuel economy... he'd squeeze his car for every liter of gas, yet he still had one helluva fast ride.
think.... does a crown vic with a 4.6 L engine consume 3 times as much gas as a 1.5 liter civic? no it doesn't. it consumes more gasoline mainly for the reason that it has nearly double the weight to move around... that is not to say that a 4.6 liter in a Civic would consume less gas since there is an efficiency loss with more cylinders... however there is a 'breaking point' where more displacement would actually mean lower consumption and I think in practical terms, the 1.8 L or even a 2.0 liter Civic would qualify. JSK for those who know him used to be all about fuel economy... he'd squeeze his car for every liter of gas, yet he still had one helluva fast ride.
#28
Originally posted by bbarbulo
the B18B should get better fuel economy vs a D16 cuz you rev it lower to get the same torque. if you drive both the same way, the B18B gets you better mileage...
JookSingKid saw better fuel economy with a B20/GSR tranny combo over his original Z6 (something like 625kms vs. 500 kms).
the B18B should get better fuel economy vs a D16 cuz you rev it lower to get the same torque. if you drive both the same way, the B18B gets you better mileage...
JookSingKid saw better fuel economy with a B20/GSR tranny combo over his original Z6 (something like 625kms vs. 500 kms).
#30
Originally posted by bbarbulo
displacement isn't linearly related to the amount of fuel consumed.
think.... does a crown vic with a 4.6 L engine consume 3 times as much gas as a 1.5 liter civic? no it doesn't. it consumes more gasoline mainly for the reason that it has nearly double the weight to move around... that is not to say that a 4.6 liter in a Civic would consume less gas since there is an efficiency loss with more cylinders... however there is a 'breaking point' where more displacement would actually mean lower consumption and I think in practical terms, the 1.8 L or even a 2.0 liter Civic would qualify. JSK for those who know him used to be all about fuel economy... he'd squeeze his car for every liter of gas, yet he still had one helluva fast ride.
displacement isn't linearly related to the amount of fuel consumed.
think.... does a crown vic with a 4.6 L engine consume 3 times as much gas as a 1.5 liter civic? no it doesn't. it consumes more gasoline mainly for the reason that it has nearly double the weight to move around... that is not to say that a 4.6 liter in a Civic would consume less gas since there is an efficiency loss with more cylinders... however there is a 'breaking point' where more displacement would actually mean lower consumption and I think in practical terms, the 1.8 L or even a 2.0 liter Civic would qualify. JSK for those who know him used to be all about fuel economy... he'd squeeze his car for every liter of gas, yet he still had one helluva fast ride.
I met up with JSK once and we test drove each other's cars... Good times, great guy..
Never see him here anymore.
#32
imo...im a fan of the b16's...
cheap, pretty avail, parts in abundance. 1.6L goodness with pretty good power....
then feed it some boost in a little while, build up the block (mine is in progress!! cant wait!!!!20lbs of boost goodness)....
and you'll be a very happy guy
in all honesty..b16 ftw.
cheap, pretty avail, parts in abundance. 1.6L goodness with pretty good power....
then feed it some boost in a little while, build up the block (mine is in progress!! cant wait!!!!20lbs of boost goodness)....
and you'll be a very happy guy
in all honesty..b16 ftw.
#35
when my b16 wasnt boosted, good clean daily driving with no messing around, i'd EASILY get over 500k per tank
but, i did plugs, wires, timing belt, water pump, etc...all on swap..
so, it cost a BIT more
but she ran like a charm.
but, i did plugs, wires, timing belt, water pump, etc...all on swap..
so, it cost a BIT more
but she ran like a charm.
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