Mounts are dead
#1
Mounts are dead
I changed my tranny today, everything went great, but I noticed some bad things, which are probably why my engine would move alot when I didn't shift very smooth on my car, my lowe front mount was not secured and my other top tranny mount had problems as well.
Now for the lower mount, its 2 14mm bolts holding the mount to the frame, then the tranny moung slides into it with a washer and bolt on the end.
I tightened one of the 14mm bolts and its secured fine, but the other bolt keeps spinnign and never gets tight, and I cannot see the other end of the bolt because its inside the frame. Can this be fixed? I was thinking if I cant get to inside the frame to stop it from spinning, I would drill straight up through the frame into the top and run a long bolt and secure it up top as well.
Any ideas...
Now for the lower mount, its 2 14mm bolts holding the mount to the frame, then the tranny moung slides into it with a washer and bolt on the end.
I tightened one of the 14mm bolts and its secured fine, but the other bolt keeps spinnign and never gets tight, and I cannot see the other end of the bolt because its inside the frame. Can this be fixed? I was thinking if I cant get to inside the frame to stop it from spinning, I would drill straight up through the frame into the top and run a long bolt and secure it up top as well.
Any ideas...
#2
Re: Mounts are dead
Originally posted by loudsubz
I tightened one of the 14mm bolts and its secured fine, but the other bolt keeps spinnign and never gets tight, and I cannot see the other end of the bolt because its inside the frame. Can this be fixed? I was thinking if I cant get to inside the frame to stop it from spinning, I would drill straight up through the frame into the top and run a long bolt and secure it up top as well.
Any ideas...
I tightened one of the 14mm bolts and its secured fine, but the other bolt keeps spinnign and never gets tight, and I cannot see the other end of the bolt because its inside the frame. Can this be fixed? I was thinking if I cant get to inside the frame to stop it from spinning, I would drill straight up through the frame into the top and run a long bolt and secure it up top as well.
Any ideas...
#3
Could you pull the bolt out and coat it with the really powerful loctite? Although if it worked properly you would never get it out again! Maybe a better idea would be to tap a larger thread into the frame and use a bigger bolt.
#4
i have the exact same thing with the lower mount... i'm not 100% sure what happened but the one bolt spins freely and you can push it in and out of the hole maybe 5 mm... but the crappy thing is that the bolt for some reason wont come out....
so i tried cutting it off... didn't work cause you can't really get anything in that tight area... i tried drilling then the bolt would spin... so i got a wrench to hold the bolt then drilled but it hard cause you can't get my push on the drill with one hand
so my plan for next weekend is to buy these little cut off disk type attachments for hte dremel... they are only an inch in diameter and i am almost certain will fit and do the job...
if you ever see me at a meet i'll show ya how to fix those upper mounts for less then $12 a pop.... although it doesn't look pretty
so i tried cutting it off... didn't work cause you can't really get anything in that tight area... i tried drilling then the bolt would spin... so i got a wrench to hold the bolt then drilled but it hard cause you can't get my push on the drill with one hand
so my plan for next weekend is to buy these little cut off disk type attachments for hte dremel... they are only an inch in diameter and i am almost certain will fit and do the job...
if you ever see me at a meet i'll show ya how to fix those upper mounts for less then $12 a pop.... although it doesn't look pretty
#5
when i did my auto to maunal swap my rear mount bolts did the same thing they wouldn't tighten up so i walked across the street to home hardware and got some standard bolts i believe 9/16 or something they screwed in they were tight though but they haven't come loose once yet
#6
yeh Rick thats the EXACT problem I have
but if you get the bolt out what are you gonna replace it with? does the bolt just go into the frame? or does it have like a nut inside the frame it attaches to?
but if you get the bolt out what are you gonna replace it with? does the bolt just go into the frame? or does it have like a nut inside the frame it attaches to?
#7
You could cut out there area, then buy a piece of 20 guage steel drill a hole through it the size of the whole on the frame. Then take a nut that threads on the bolt and weld it in place to the back of the metal plate. Then weld the plate over the hole with the nut inside the frame.
#9
Originally posted by loudsubz
yeh Rick thats the EXACT problem I have
but if you get the bolt out what are you gonna replace it with? does the bolt just go into the frame? or does it have like a nut inside the frame it attaches to?
yeh Rick thats the EXACT problem I have
but if you get the bolt out what are you gonna replace it with? does the bolt just go into the frame? or does it have like a nut inside the frame it attaches to?
thats the only explaination i have... the welds on the nut inside must have snapped half way down the bolt and now its just there... if i can get the head of the nut off though i can just push it up in the frame and drill a bigger whole and go like that...
#10
if you cut it off and the broken-off nut falls inside the frame, you'll always have this ghay rattle in there. I'd prolly still cut it, drill a bigger hole and pull out the other end with a magnet, then get a bung made in that size, and weld the bung in the bigger hole that I drilled, and then tap the bung for an original size bolt.
BTW, Matt, remember your question about the spinning stud on the lower shifter cup - those two nuts under the rubber booty by the shifter. I had the same problem this weekend. My shifter had a slight rattle in 2nd and 4th, and I was installing the front sway bar at the same time. I dropped the shift rods and my exhaust... anyways, I couldn't get those nuts off... so I dropped the front side of it instead. How did you deal with it?
BTW, Matt, remember your question about the spinning stud on the lower shifter cup - those two nuts under the rubber booty by the shifter. I had the same problem this weekend. My shifter had a slight rattle in 2nd and 4th, and I was installing the front sway bar at the same time. I dropped the shift rods and my exhaust... anyways, I couldn't get those nuts off... so I dropped the front side of it instead. How did you deal with it?
#11
Originally posted by bbarbulo
if you cut it off and the broken-off nut falls inside the frame, you'll always have this ghay rattle in there. I'd prolly still cut it, drill a bigger hole and pull out the other end with a magnet, then get a bung made in that size, and weld the bung in the bigger hole that I drilled, and then tap the bung for an original size bolt.
BTW, Matt, remember your question about the spinning stud on the lower shifter cup - those two nuts under the rubber booty by the shifter. I had the same problem this weekend. My shifter had a slight rattle in 2nd and 4th, and I was installing the front sway bar at the same time. I dropped the shift rods and my exhaust... anyways, I couldn't get those nuts off... so I dropped the front side of it instead. How did you deal with it?
if you cut it off and the broken-off nut falls inside the frame, you'll always have this ghay rattle in there. I'd prolly still cut it, drill a bigger hole and pull out the other end with a magnet, then get a bung made in that size, and weld the bung in the bigger hole that I drilled, and then tap the bung for an original size bolt.
BTW, Matt, remember your question about the spinning stud on the lower shifter cup - those two nuts under the rubber booty by the shifter. I had the same problem this weekend. My shifter had a slight rattle in 2nd and 4th, and I was installing the front sway bar at the same time. I dropped the shift rods and my exhaust... anyways, I couldn't get those nuts off... so I dropped the front side of it instead. How did you deal with it?
If its those smaller 10mm bolts that hold the sifter in the cup, and they have like a oval head on the other side, yeh I had that problem of spinning as well. All I did was drop my linkage from the car and do it in the garage with a box end wrench on the oval head and I unscrewed it from the other side, worked alot better.
#14
ahh yeah i just used thread de seizer let it sit and then when the nut was lubbed up it spun right off, i take it you dont have a mig welder or you would have just tacked them in place. see if you could get a buddy with a mig welder to help you out and give them both new tacks
#18
Originally posted by loudsubz
yeh I def need new tacs
I have a mig but no 220 in my garage yet lol
yeh I def need new tacs
I have a mig but no 220 in my garage yet lol
maybe when you get that going we could both fix up ours? haha i wouldn't even mind just welding the entire mount to the frame... if the tranny or motor ever has to come out i could just unbolt the part onthe tranny and just slide her out
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