Quick_CX

for all of you guys pushing over 200 whp...in b seris motors....whats teh best way to push out more whp....and get well past 200 HP to the wheels....with keeping it naturally aspirated..?....i'm think do heavy head work..port and polish, stage 2 cams, complete valve train, springs retainers..cam gears, header., hondata computer, lightened fly wheel, nicer cluth assebly....any suggestions??...on best route to go...with still keeping the car drive able for daily street use?????

1.8 HB

Are you sure you can afford 200whp + N/A?

Import Racer

If you wanna push over 200 whp going NA, expect to spend upwards of about $15,000 for everything.

Quick_CX

well right now i am looking downa few paths
1 being N/A....heavey head work cams and so on

FI;
2. SC
3. TC

which ever is cheapest and most effecient will be the route to take...either way i will be doing light head work cams, valve train cam gears.....
but..right now i ain't 100% on either wya..whats ur opinion???

1.8 HB

Cheapest way to make 200 whp??

LS-Turbo, if not then b16-Turbo.

Quick_CX

well in that cae i think forced induction will be way to go with slight other mods...but teh debatei had about supercharger or turbo didn't get anywhere.....none of my question where really answered...i know the basic funcionality of the two...but which is more effeciant for lesser cost and easier to work with ....

Quick_CX

i have b18 gsr if that helps you out

1.8 HB

I am definetly not a FI specialist, but it's not practical to supercharge a small displacement motor like a b series, i think it has more potential for power if you turbo charge it, plus there are more ways for going turbo, rather than s/c where the alternatives are very few.

1.8 HB

You have a gsr motor? Well i say go turbo, or if you would like to get first hand experience on supercharging a gsr you can talk to Ryan Autrey i believe that's his nickname on clubsi and honda tech. He has a si hatch with a supercharged gsr motor, he should be able to give you more info than anyone here.

Quick_CX

cool....yeah i am really starting to lean towards FI...well what kinda power are u guys pushing?....on what sort of mods?

1.8 HB

Well at the moment i am pushing 0 power since i don't have a car anymore. I do have a GSR motor at home though, and i am planning to with a skunk2 intake manifold, chipped p28 ecu, type r cams (exhaust and intake), jdm header w/ 2.5" collector, high flow cat and and a 2.5" exhaust. That should get me in 13s easily while keeping my reliability. Since my car will be daily driven, reliability is key therefore F/I is out of the question for me. I am not saying whoever has a turbo has a pos car, i just don't think it's suitable for daily driving, that's it.

Import Racer

Yup, just go turbo.

Quick_CX

u did? import racer???....please let me knwo details very interested howis going?

Quick_CX

yeah if i could hit low 13's i'd be happy...
i want it to be driveable on daily basis....as well...but 12's would be nice

Import Racer

Nope...no turbo...was gonna go turbo, but change of plans.


I doubt you'll hit 12's with a turbo B18C. 13's....ummm...possibly high 13's with slicks. Also, depending on how old the motor and how many kms' you got on there.

Quick_CX

well i know of gsr's in eg hatches that run 13.4 on bald street tires....with nothing more than cams, gears, header, msd ignigtion, fuel system upgrades....so its definetly possible...with some what easy...turbo should put it in the 12's low 12's

Import Racer

was it fully built?

Quick_CX

fully built meaning....? its a gsr in a eg hatch....full interior, minus rear bench....street trim....bald street tires.....cams, aem gears, msd blaster and wires, fuel pressure reg, dc headr, cat back exhust, maybe a little port and polish....supposivly 170hp to wheels and he ran 13.4 or 136....but it was mid 13's

Import Racer

170 whp and he ran 13.4???
Kinda hard to believe.

1.8 HB

Quick CX, i don't mean to be rude but you need to brush up on some of your knowledge as far as modding and being able to determine if a person is bsing or not.

To be honest with you, it's hard to know if this guy is full of it or not, people don't always give out their full mods just so they seem like they are either really good drivers, or whatever the reason is.

I think with his "mods" part of which don't make sense, like what's up with the msd ignition and wires? Anyway it's very possible to run those times on slicks, as far as street tires, i don't know. Try and find out his complete list of mods, and not "maybe p&p, and maybe this and that." Straight up, what are his mods, best give us a track slip, or at least the 1/4 mile time, trap speed and 60'.