imported_alwaysoverkill

i was under the impression as long as you rough up the rotors with a sandpaper or rubber grinding disk to remove previous lines/grooves, then its ok?

you always machine? cause that removes quite a bit of material and if your going through pads like my mom does, yikes!

imported_Team Rukus

whats wrong with midas?
i dont see what they did wrong here.

u wanted new pads they put new pads.

then u wanted new rotors they put new rotors.

where did they go wrong in the installation?

the noise comes from the actual pads and rotor's themselves not the install.

that being said it sounds like you were to cheap to afford good or oem pads and rotors which was the initial problems. i am pretty sure they told you about their brake line up like premium quality etc etc... but you opted for the price that suited your needs. i can tell cuz you didnt change pads and rotors the first time around eventhough you new that the pads was worn down bad which is a prime example of eating your rotors to ****.

next time before dissing a company or a name do some research as to what your getting yourself into and have the money to do it.

oem pads and rotors are cheap anyways so why wouldnt you even get those?

J

i never change my rotors when i change my pads and i've never had a problem....in fact i just changed my pads and left the rotors cause they were still very good...even after more than 2 years

imported_winner007

Some ppl like to be cheap and just change pads and not rotors but that's okay as long as there isn't vibration. when there is vibration u will need another set of pads and rotors again. U paid what u get for and if u do it right the 1st place nothing should go wrong. Never trust Midas. They rip people off. They do ok work though, but they charge really expensive and they call for calipers all the time when u do a brake job. The reason why your brakes is making noise because u are using those really cheap $10-$15 pads. U got to shamfered the pads at the corner to reduce the noise or maybe put some silicone at the back of the pads. Also there is no such thing as lifetime warranty on brakes and mufflers in Midas. All they do is charge u on installation and they will say we will need to replace the calipers this time due to your brakes worn out and so on. Then they will say caliper is like $200 or more and charge u on installation or whatever then they got to bleed the system. Same as for muffler. Maybe they will give u the muffler for free, but they will say The mid pipe might break because it is so rusty when i try to take the muffler off so i can't guarantee u just the muffler. Then u pay for the mid pipe and installation. Is all bs.

Anyways. As for the impact screw driver u can buy them as princess auto but then buy a snap on head philip. Don't use the CHEAP ones they give u with the impact screw. Those 1's will strip and will strip the heads on the rotors, then u will have to drill it after. It happened to me. They should sell them at Canadiain tire or any other stores.

Younes Si

I'm not all good with this kind of stuff and i changed my 2 front rotors/shoes and back 2 drums/pads

89SIHATCH?

you dont have to change the rotors everytime, just machine 'em better then changing the pads and then finding a vibration then you gotta pull it all apart and machine them or replace them.
1 time thing save the vibration and further problems.

it is good to give the rotors a quick go over with some sand paper or grinder or whatever, but it doesn't even it out and stop vibration, just gets rid of little grooves and sometime will actually cause to give a vibration in the front cause of unconsistency in removing the ridges with a grinder etc....had that happen before to me.

everyone makes mistakes but unfortunatly it was with your brakes. that does suck

dentEL

Sup...lotsa replies, I see!

Anyways, I've done a pad slap first because I've done it before couple of times on Nissan Maxima and Celica...old rotors and new pads worked just fine. So I figured I can get away with it...I guess Honda rotors are thin...even though Acura checked the brakes a week prior and they have told me the rotors were within spec so it was safe to machine them and put new pads...so I did that.

In regards to me being cheap....maybe u right...but i am student with a part time job...after the insurance and gas I dont got much left for service...

As for dissing Midas...trust me I got enough **** on them besides my brakes...notice I went back there to change my rotors...cause I actuall thought it was my fault for doing the pads only...

Midas in turn gave me a quote of $140 + tax to change the rotors and promised to warranty the pads....2 days later when I went there and the story had changed...I am not getting new pads and somehow I had to pay $270....for servising the brakes...like lubricating the calipers ...WTF...extra $100 to lubricate the calipers. I told them to **** off and that I was only going to pay the amount they have quoted me before.

While I was there, doing the brakes the last time...I wanted to do a tune up...had all the parts in my trunk...wires, plugs, cap and rotor...I asked the "friendly" midas employee..how much it would be just slap that stuff on.,...He told me it would be 2 hours labor....so $180 + tax...I broke out in laughter...tell me if I wrong but even the most unexperienced mechanic can do it in 30 min with 2 smoke brakes...

So pls, Midas does try to RIP ppl off...and its soooo obvious!

Besides that, Thanks for the warm welcome to TCC...glad to b on board!

imported_starboy869

I'm assuming shop rate is $90/hr? I don't see where the rip off is.

"unexperienced mechanic can do it in 30 min with 2 smoke brakes... " (breaks not brakes)

It seems like your an unexperienced mech. Why don't you do it yourself.

dentEL

Yes it is $89/ hr....

and I did do it myself and thats how long it took me.....with 2 smoke brakes....

and if I remember correctly Acura wanted 1 hr labor for the same job..and that includes a car wash...so I can kind of accept that.

imported_loudsubz

if your accept the responsibilities of owning a car, you have to accept any servicing that needs to be done to it as well. If you can't, or find it hard to do so, maybe owning a car isn't for you, and other transportation is better suited for you.

dentEL

No offence....but I am not a child...
I think u misunderstood wut I was trying to say in my post

I rely on my car to get me around on daily basis...that explains why I did my brakes and tune up etc in the first place...but I am not about to pay through my *** and get a ****ty service. Trust me, I take care of my car very well...thats why when I pay hard earned cash and my brakes are stilled messed up ...it makes me mad!

89SIHATCH?

AGREED

imported_1PhatCX

holy webs of mis conception here!
ok, i work at speedy, and i know someone said speedy sucks, w/e.

fact of the matter is, they didnt prep the pads right when installing (put sil glyd on the backs of the pads, rub the faces together to get rid of the roughness and lube everything else properly) i have done many many pad slaps as per customer request, never once has one come back and complained, 2nd, u will get a vibration if they had the rotor off to machine and didnt get rid of all the rust on the back of the rotor and on the hub assembly itself, if they didnt do that, then its 2 uneven surfaces mating and throwing the rotor off, and yes, if u machine them, they WILL warp easily, we put that to the test on my car, what it is is the rotor becomes thinner and more suceptable to heat which = warpage

and yes, if u cheap out and go with the bottom of the line stuff, it will grind/squeel and make noise, reason being, **** material on pads or rotors, i have seen this before as well

as to the warranty on the pads, it should say right on ur receipt if its a lifetime or 1 year warranty, if its lifetime, then ur set for life for getting pads from them, all u pay is the labour for installation, thats a given. noone works for free anymore

as for the guy who stated that we try and rip u guys off with warranties, well... no. we look at what has to be done, if the rear pipe looks rotten going into the muffler, we bring it to the customers attention, either way hes getting a free muffler and paying 19.99 for the installation. and ultimately its his/her choice to say, "yes, needs to be done" or "no, lets see if it breaks, if it doesnt, just slap the muffler on"

also... $89 shop rate is outrageous, we charge $** an hour, and as far as them quoting u 2 hours labour, it might have been a rough figure, or maybe he looked it up in the labour book and gave u the direct labour requirement for a real tune-up, because a tune-up truely consists of, oil/lube/filter, air filter change, fuel filter change, and plugs, wires, cap and rotor. which yes, would take an hour and 1/2 maybe 2 hours depending on stubborness of bolts etc etc.

so essentially, u get what u pay for. u cheap out, things **** up, and i'll tell u right now, a good set of pads at my work are around 100 - 120 bucks. typically, depending on the vehicle, a brake job should cost anywhere from 250 - 450 dollars in the front (labour included) and anywhere from 250 - 550 for rear (labour included as well) and again... depending on the vehicle as the make/model determine alot as well as the year.

so like team rukus said, do some research before dissing a company. alot of the time, its not the company but the tech who did the job. our shop generates more business every day because we have shops in the falls that **** up and try to **** people over and their customers come to us. and just be careful when u do diss companies on here, because u never know who works for them

dentEL

Thanks for clearing things out 1PhatCX!!!

And maybe ur right about dissing the whole company just because of couple of incompetent mechanics...I guess its just my luck that I got those guys to work on my car.

Nonetheless, I had a bad eperience with Midas so far...so wont be going back there ever again.

imported_1PhatCX

no problem man
i like 2 help out and let people know the inside story because it really grinds my gears when people bash my business with no reason

1sloweg

Any front wheel drive car these days.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS change both rotors and pads when doing a brake job.

Everything must also move FREELY. This includes caliper slide pins, and also the pad contact points. NEVER NEVER put antisieze on the slide pins, use slicone lubricant. Also SILICONE the back of the brake pads.

Do all of this and I guaruntee you will never have a squeeling problem wiht your brakes.

If you want it done properly I can do it for you, liscenced mechanic.

imported_1PhatCX

Aka.. Sil Glyde, or Dielectric grease

dentEL

Obviously, Midas didnt do any of that ****....My brakes are crunchy as hell....

Also, I was wondering, wut does the constant humming sound coming from drivers side front brakes mean....sounds almoust like fcuked bearings at higher speeds.

Seizing or siezed caliper? Bearings?...too tight?

Any suggestions from licensed mechanics?

imported_1PhatCX

bearings