kwikb16a2

Well i have my mind set on the 4 wheel gsr brake swap for my car. My question is for those who have done it, is it really noticable compared to the stock brakes? and how hard would you say the install is and any problems that come around? Thanks

imported2nv

the only thing i can tell you about the rear swap is the lines there a bitch if you dont have any exp.

kwikb16a2

u mean bending them and flaring?that doesnt seem so bad but then again i could be wrong

90ls

as to your original question.

the difference is night and day.

good choice ...safety first

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

I've done it... difference = enough to make it worthwhile ; difficulty = 4 (on a 1->10)

there is nothing hard about the swap. here is a badass writeup

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/brakeswap.html

also check in the Tech Archives of TCC

imported_cet_civic

its a lot of fun too

kwikb16a2

bump

kwikb16a2

the set im picking up is off a 2000 gsr with a type-r brake booster, do i need to find a type-r master cylinder and prop valve or or can i get it off any integra? And i dont have abs so will these work fine?And lastly do i need to run new hard lines and what size if so?

imported_cet_civic

IMO you should match up the booster and the M/C and a 40/40 prop valve off of a civic si hatch should do the trick

the hardlines...it depends on how rough of shape the fittings are in when dis-assemble the prop valve and/or the hardline - flex line. That is something you'll have to judge when you come down to it. Its not hard to re-flare your own line, just get a flare kit form princess auto / CT and pratice a couple times on a ****y piece.

Fun swap!

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

you need a prop valve out of a non-ABS 4 wheel disk car

you just need to re-flare your original lines, not run new ones

it would be best to have an SiR/Integra or GSR or CTR/ITR master cyl. Sizes vary from 15/16 to 1 1/16"

If you get a SiR or CTR master cylinder, you won't have to re-flare the lines, but since I didn't get an ITR booster (I got an SiR one) I can't be sure that all master cyls will work with that particular booster.

kwikb16a2

from an civic si hatch? i drive a 6th gen. You jus confused me LOL. And are the hardlines different sizes from the civic and integra or is it only the fittings different?

kwikb16a2

it doesnt matter if the mc and bb are from a abs car and installing it on a non-abs car? sorry if im a pain in the *** but jus want to make sure i get all the right parts

imported_cet_civic

I agree....but if you cant get the fitting off or you strip the hex, you may have to cut it back from the hardline...
tip - purchase a flare nut wrench at C/T for ~$8 (10MM one end and 11MM on the other) shouldnt have a probelm.

But I have seen it when the hex rounds off and what good is it to put that rounded fitting back on.

my $0.02

Civic and Integra hardlines are the same
I have a BB and M/C from an GSR w ABS, and a non-ABS prop valve - it doesn't matter if its from ABS car!

Get the prop valve Bbarb speaks of!

kwikb16a2

ok perfect thanks alot guys, you guys are tha best

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

OH ****, I always thought you had a 5th gen.

Then for sure you need a USDM 99-00 Si prop valve or a CTR valve - nothing else works. That's how I had to do it.

kwikb16a2

lol i'll change my profile to 6th gen civic cx, sorry my bad

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

aiight, so we established it's a 6th gen

Holler if you have any problems with something. My car was out for weeks while I tried to remove the damn axles from the hubs. It's really simple, but for some reason mine wouldn't budge.