looking for sum input on my k20 ef
10-Oct-2006, 04:57 PM
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looking for sum input on my k20 ef
hey everyone just getin to know more about the k20 swaps
i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts...
im still thinking wat 2 do k20a top end k24 bottom end ad k20a tranny ..let me know on wat u guys think....wat would u do to make 350-400hp to the wheel ...
heres a list of all my parts that are in soo far ..
interior- black, no ac components, digital water temp,air/fuel,voltage, oil pressure guages mounted in dash, cd player, GSR cluster, integra console w/ armrest, si rear seats, rsx shifter, hybrid harness
suspension- Progress full street/race suspension setup including all bushings installed, full GSR disc brakes conversion front and rear w/ full brake upgrade cross drilled, pads, brake lines and new master cylinder, upgraded front crossmember with traction bars and bushings
gettin ready for the k-series-Hasport ef billet mounts, and cable clutch adapter, rsx shifter cables, steel braided fuel lines from walbro 255hp pump, dual core civic radiator w/ high speed flat fan
i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts...
im still thinking wat 2 do k20a top end k24 bottom end ad k20a tranny ..let me know on wat u guys think....wat would u do to make 350-400hp to the wheel ...
heres a list of all my parts that are in soo far ..
interior- black, no ac components, digital water temp,air/fuel,voltage, oil pressure guages mounted in dash, cd player, GSR cluster, integra console w/ armrest, si rear seats, rsx shifter, hybrid harness
suspension- Progress full street/race suspension setup including all bushings installed, full GSR disc brakes conversion front and rear w/ full brake upgrade cross drilled, pads, brake lines and new master cylinder, upgraded front crossmember with traction bars and bushings
gettin ready for the k-series-Hasport ef billet mounts, and cable clutch adapter, rsx shifter cables, steel braided fuel lines from walbro 255hp pump, dual core civic radiator w/ high speed flat fan
10-Oct-2006, 06:02 PM
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1st of all....it's cool that you are going k-series, but your goal is kind of unrealistic...350-400whp?...i dont think it's been done before n/a at least...on hondatech, ppl like niko who have k24/k20 hybrids only managed to have 300whp and that's not easy to do...but to squeeze an additional 50-100whp to do so, you better have REALLY deep pockets....or just turbo
umm..."i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts..."
i dont think that made any sense...if you finished everything for a k-series in your ef, why did it say "except for motor, ecu, shafts..." that's like 2/3 of the major swap components....so i suppose you installed the tranny already?
umm..."i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts..."
i dont think that made any sense...if you finished everything for a k-series in your ef, why did it say "except for motor, ecu, shafts..." that's like 2/3 of the major swap components....so i suppose you installed the tranny already?
10-Oct-2006, 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by 95civic_hb
1st of all....it's cool that you are going k-series, but your goal is kind of unrealistic...350-400whp?...i dont think it's been done before n/a at least...on hondatech, ppl like niko who have k24/k20 hybrids only managed to have 300whp and that's not easy to do...but to squeeze an additional 50-100whp to do so, you better have REALLY deep pockets....or just turbo
umm..."i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts..."
i dont think that made any sense...if you finished everything for a k-series in your ef, why did it say "except for motor, ecu, shafts..." that's like 2/3 of the major swap components....so i suppose you installed the tranny already?
1st of all....it's cool that you are going k-series, but your goal is kind of unrealistic...350-400whp?...i dont think it's been done before n/a at least...on hondatech, ppl like niko who have k24/k20 hybrids only managed to have 300whp and that's not easy to do...but to squeeze an additional 50-100whp to do so, you better have REALLY deep pockets....or just turbo
umm..."i just finished everything for k series on my ef civic except for motor ecu shafts..."
i dont think that made any sense...if you finished everything for a k-series in your ef, why did it say "except for motor, ecu, shafts..." that's like 2/3 of the major swap components....so i suppose you installed the tranny already?
i thought about that contradicting statement as well =)
but maybe he meant he's missing installing the "MOTOR ECU" and "SHAFTS", that should make more sense, since he didn't had any comma(s)... so i suppose he just called ecu a "motor ecu"
but if he did meant the motor has not been done... his statement really has some english problem... or maybe he just isn't good with english
btw, to get 350whp takes serious moeny if you're going n/a... that is like going best of the best for every parts, really aggresive cams and really high compression piston and the engine is built to perfection and tune to perfection along with racing fuel... best route is TURBO
12-Oct-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by zeeman
Definately gunna need boost to get those numbers.
Definately gunna need boost to get those numbers.
why do people love K so much? its still very expensive to make crazy power.
13-Oct-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by plzbeleiveit
b series owns k
b series owns k
i really dont think a bseries would beat a k.
you have your b20vtec. why not try racing a kswapped car? i mean you got enough work done right. and you went 13.8 on street tires. just so you can see IF you can beat it.
unfortunately, alot of the k swapped cars ive seen.. are either running high 12s or low 13's lol.. sorry man
13-Oct-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by t_dot_SiR
....i thought about that contradicting statement as well =)
but maybe he meant he's missing installing the "MOTOR ECU" and "SHAFTS", that should make more sense, since he didn't had any comma(s)... so i suppose he just called ecu a "motor ecu"....
....i thought about that contradicting statement as well =)
but maybe he meant he's missing installing the "MOTOR ECU" and "SHAFTS", that should make more sense, since he didn't had any comma(s)... so i suppose he just called ecu a "motor ecu"....
I think he meant "motor" "ecu" and "shafts" and 20.8:1 compression pistons of course... and alien technology...
and k... why do people love them so much???
same reason ppl like LSD...
gets you ****ed!!!
jks... 6speed DOOFUS!!!!a civic with either an LSD or 6 speed is unique and well, crazy...
opinions on your k series in the ef??? sell the ef and buy an ek... hahahha!!!
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Also, if you look at the difference in numbers... I'd say between b20vtecs (a welll built one) and a k20s with bolts on and maybe k-pro would output similar hp numbers, but the b20 will own in torque... but, then again, ks have a dirty 6speed tranny that will just keep launching them forward gear after gear untill... oh wait, 6th... ****, he's still going... (Anyone ever tell themselves that on the hwy???)
and well, say you have no motor... well, to buy a head and bottom end and then send them away to get built... you are probably looking at around close to the same price as a k swap... i would go k-series because i wanna shift one more than 5th!!!!
13-Oct-2006, 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
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Also, if you look at the difference in numbers... I'd say between b20vtecs (a welll built one) and a k20s with bolts on and maybe k-pro would output similar hp numbers, but the b20 will own in torque... but, then again, ks have a dirty 6speed tranny that will just keep launching them forward gear after gear untill... oh wait, 6th... ****, he's still going... (Anyone ever tell themselves that on the hwy???)
and well, say you have no motor... well, to buy a head and bottom end and then send them away to get built... you are probably looking at around close to the same price as a k swap... i would go k-series because i wanna shift one more than 5th!!!!
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Also, if you look at the difference in numbers... I'd say between b20vtecs (a welll built one) and a k20s with bolts on and maybe k-pro would output similar hp numbers, but the b20 will own in torque... but, then again, ks have a dirty 6speed tranny that will just keep launching them forward gear after gear untill... oh wait, 6th... ****, he's still going... (Anyone ever tell themselves that on the hwy???)
and well, say you have no motor... well, to buy a head and bottom end and then send them away to get built... you are probably looking at around close to the same price as a k swap... i would go k-series because i wanna shift one more than 5th!!!!
13-Oct-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by zeeman
i don't know man, i don't get it.
i don't know man, i don't get it.
when modded make modded B20V power. so what...... should i spend $10K for and extra gear, or is it for the newer, more costly swap? lastly, am i the only one that has noticed that a good 60% of k swaps run slower e.t's and comparable mph in the 1/4 as its smaller, underpowered b series counterpart?
13-Oct-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
and if you want something completely different compare my car to your mom... b_tch!!!!
and if you want something completely different compare my car to your mom... b_tch!!!!
13-Oct-2006, 12:24 PM
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i don't get whats so special about the 6 spd anyways. You're still at 3500rpms in 6th gear at 110km/hr....pretty much just like a gsr tranny, i know b/c my g/fs friend has a RSX type-S that she lets me drive pretty much whenever i want.
I mean, it would be pimp, if it were like a itr 1st through 5th and had a killer long highway cruising 6th, but it doesn't.
And like m_power is saying, for the money, and ease of installation i'd take a b20vtec over a k-series anyday.
I mean, it would be pimp, if it were like a itr 1st through 5th and had a killer long highway cruising 6th, but it doesn't.
And like m_power is saying, for the money, and ease of installation i'd take a b20vtec over a k-series anyday.
13-Oct-2006, 12:49 PM
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ive spent maybe half as what a k would cost alone not even the installation of a k series. and im running a 13.8, ive just invested in a y1 lsd tranny and ill bet i got my time done quiet a bit. now if i were to poor another 5-6 grand into my car to equal to the kseries swap there would be no comprassion id take the kseries anyday. keep in mind were going motor for motor.
