kaichun5586

Guys, i am working on a low boost setup on my B16A2. I want to use a Mitsubishi TD04 @7psi. Most of these turbos use actuators instead of an external wastegate.

My problem is that I LOVE MY A/C and I do not want to remove it so I need a turbo manifold that will allow me to keep my A/C. Drag manifold seems to be able to do the job but the problem is that they have external wastegate flange. I don't think i can just block it off.

So i am looking for a turbo manifold that lets me keep A/C and does not have a external wastegate opening. Do you guys know of any?

Thanks for your time

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

you can block it off if you wanted. but, why not remove the internal gate on the turbo and use an external gate??

odds are with your turbo, your air con won't work well or at all (unlikely anyways.... it'll take a lot of messin around to get the air con to work right again)

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

a turbo generates a **** load of heat. I feel sorry for the a/c compressor once that turbo's been spoolin' for a while.

chris_si98

Get one custom made.

ccfab

He does some excellent work, I've seen his work all over the net.

kaichun5586

oh! the ccfab website is good. As long as everything clears the A/C compressors and fan I am happy.

bbarbulo, what does it take to scrap the internal gate for an external gate?

also, it's not that hard to wire up a water-oiled cooled turbo, right? the oil part should wire up regularily and the water part...i am not so sure...

thanks again, guys

imported_SilverSleeper

You could always have a heat shield made between the turbo and a/c

chris_si98

tuner toys

I got my oil lines from tuner toys. It's not that difficult to hook them up/figure out how they work. There's tons and tons of info on oil lines for turbo hondas. For the coolant lines, I'm using just regular heater hose, the fittings I got from NAPA. The coolant source you can use the coolant lines behind the TB/IM. It doesn't matter how you hook them up, unlike the oil lines where the feedline must be at the top and the return line must be at the bottom since gravity moves it along.

imported_italstallion

wow i just went on the site those price are very good is that in canadian???and how much is shipping?

kaichun5586

how should i connect coolant lines if my turbo is also watercooled? with a T junction from the lines to the turbo and also cycle back with another T?

imported_weiRtech

josh is a good guy, i've sold him flanges in the past. he is in one of the eastern states, nj i think? you can also see a lot of his stuff on www.homemadeturbo.com although he isn't allowed to sell there. i should also mention his manifolds aren't purge welded. but for the price, they can't be beat. if you want, i could make one for you probably to whatever specs you want. i'm local as well. hit me with a pm.

Mr. Death

This is how mine are routed.

sohcpowerD

Those log man's look like ****.

Ill stick with my
http://www.spoolinperformance.com/
Stuff. A bit more expensive but well worth it in my opinion,Phil is a great guy too.

Heres my mani

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

my home made peice

anyways, you just physically close the internal wastegate ( you could tack weld it, or just use a screw on the flange to keep it closed) and remove the actuator, then use an external gate.

kaichun5586

Hey, there's a guy on Honda-Tech that removes the AC fan and bolt up a slim fan on the other side of the AC.



Anybody has done stuff like this here? I'd sure like to check out this setup, like how the AC is and stuff. Cuz this solves a lot of problems.

sohcpowerD

Yeah spoolin can do the same setups, just let him know what u want, he does it, check him out on honda-tech

chris_si98

I'd just go local, weiRacing does excellent work. And lives just north of Burlington.

pm him, he's on these boards. Or if you want I can speak to him about your manifold and see what he can do.

imported_weiRtech

i've sold a few flanges to phil as well... also a good guy to deal with and has been at it longer than josh i believe.

boost ghost

out of curiosity why are you so set against running an external gate??

kaichun5586

honestly....it was becuz, being a noob about turbo, i did not know you can convert internal to external

boost ghost

internal gates are notorious for boost creep. The size of the gate just isn't big enough to vent the exhaust most of the time. You can still use an external gate and have it routed back into the exhaust, as long as you take gas turbulence into consideration when deciding where and how to re route it. I suppose that if you were only planning on running low boost (less than say 6-8psi) that an internal gate "should" be sufficient... but not necessarily optimal.