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Old 13-Dec-2003, 10:24 AM
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limited slip..

i'm wondering... i'll use a b16 as an example... for a b16 i could get a tranny that is lsd or non lsd... my question is say i got a non lsd b16 tranny could an lsd be put into it?? cause i know there are companies that make lsd's but is there physically anything in a non lsd tranny restricting me from doing this??

trannies are the one thing in a car i do not understand :cry:
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there are add on LSD such as one called the phantom grip its possible but dont waste your time or your money
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Re: limited slip..

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my question is say i got a non lsd b16 tranny could an lsd be put into it??
Yes

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is there physically anything in a non lsd tranny restricting me from doing this??
Skill? perhaps money?

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trannies are the one thing in a car i do not understand :cry:
ah it was skill then.
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i have an lsd rick, next spring i'll show you
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just get an after market LSD like quaiffe or kaaz for instance(quaiffe is much better) stock LSD are usualy like 70/30 not 50/50 like an aftermarket one.
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ya but a quife is liek 1500 bux american..and kazaa isnt' much better....cheapest it get a oem lsd tranny...they make them for b series adn d series so no matter what honda motor you have there is a lsd tranny you can get for it...
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Old 13-Dec-2003, 02:41 PM
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well you dont really need it and can really only feel the difference when cornering otherwise its not noticable. so unless you do autox or driving on an actual track it wouldnt be worth the upgrade for a daily driver especially if your lacking in power. do something better and get your intake manifold done and port match your throttle body.
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Old 13-Dec-2003, 03:21 PM
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umm ya the car is going to be used for solo2 as much as i can next season so it will be useful to have an lsd... the only reason i asked was cause lsd trannies seem to be a lot harder to find and more expensive.... so if i'm gonna end up paying more for an lsd i thought a nice after market one would be for one new and probably better then a stock one....
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well in that case go for it, but I would work on gearing instead or if not gearing then suspension, maybe consider a nice set of polyurethane bushings, perhaps an engine damper.
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meh get good shocks...then jsut get a lsd tranny...a qauife alone will be mroe than a oem lsd tranny
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Quaife is only $800 USD, but installing any real LSD into a tranny requires re-shimming the case, which most ppl don't have the skill or the patience for. Not for the faint at heart, so if a desk covered in shims and gears doesn't scare you, you're the man for the job.
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info on LSD:

http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/lsdinfo.html

there is an article here you should read: (Kaaz)

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/lsd/index.html

or this one: (Quaife)

(I can't find it will look more later)
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Kaaz is a clutch type, same with Cusco - these types require proper break-in and will wear out eventually. Quaife is race-proven over and over and will not wear out - plus Quaife guarantees them for life - it's a small investment really. I've heard of OEM LSDs blowing under spin-outs and other skid conditions - and that's an expensive repair to take on.
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
Kaaz is a clutch type, same with Cusco - these types require proper break-in and will wear out eventually. Quaife is race-proven over and over and will not wear out - plus Quaife guarantees them for life - it's a small investment really. I've heard of OEM LSDs blowing under spin-outs and other skid conditions - and that's an expensive repair to take on.
I coimpletely agree that Quaife is the way to go.... I just can't find the install article.....

the one I saw showed all the gears out of the casing and would scare anyone that doesn't work with trannies every day
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Don't most aftermarkert LSD's require a rebuild every 20K or so?

That would be a royal pain in the ****..

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Not the Quaife
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Old 15-Dec-2003, 05:52 PM
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thanks for the info... i think knowledge wise i could rebuild a tranny... as i have rebuilt gear boxes and plenty of other things for machinery at work... i've been meaning to take apart my old Si tranny to see how it all comes together.... its still just a dream while we're frozen though
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It's not worth the money.

Like S2k previously had said, you would barely notice it.
If you really want one, go OEM with a NEW ITR tranny.
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ok he I bet he codul never destroy a oem lsd I mean he isn't runing huge power and crazy track driving to destroy it(from what I gather he is a weekend warrior when he get's the time)...I bet most of the thsoe failures were hardcore racers out to demolish the lsd
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Old 15-Dec-2003, 10:01 PM
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well the main reason for an aftermarket one ie Quaife is that i can put it in and abuse it all i want and never have a problem... if i do i get a new one.... if an oem lsd gets busted on a itr or ctr tranny i just wasted a lot of money.... as very few shops will warrenty a tranny and if they do its 90 days or something ***** foot like that

another bonus to the lsd is that i can perform two wheel burn outs.... although i suppose that will just drag the rear wheel faster then with a single wheel burnout....
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