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Old 31-Oct-2005, 08:09 AM
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kyb agx in 96 hatch

i just got some new shocks installed and changed my springs from chopped springs to some APEX springs or something that I got from my buddy. I think they may have lowered my car a little more than I wanted, but the ride seems to be so much better.

I am just not too sure how the ride should be. I set the shocks to medium stiffness and the ride is super stiff and even on the lightest setting its a little bouncy. I am thinking its just the springs that I put in that must be crappy.

what would you guys suggest to do? comfort is nice, but control is more important. any ideas on what changes I should maked?
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Old 31-Oct-2005, 08:16 AM
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Buy some decent springs that maybe are not so low.
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Old 31-Oct-2005, 09:19 AM
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First woul dbe to find out what springs you're using. And exactly how low are you? Its going to be a little bouncy if you're on a race spring.

Just keep playing with the settings.

I had my old AGX cranked to super stiff for a couple weeks until i got used to the ride. Then I set them on the softest setting one day so that I could get the full effect of the range in dampening. From there I played with them until I found the sweet spot.
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Old 31-Oct-2005, 07:12 PM
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they are APEX springs, from some company in holland or something. the website says its a 40mm drop and some other site from the US says its a 1.8 drop. is there any way i can tell what the drop is by measuring from the wheel wells?

I heard that these springs may not be that good... any ideas?
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Originally posted by mikepasini
they are APEX springs, from some company in holland or something. the website says its a 40mm drop and some other site from the US says its a 1.8 drop. is there any way i can tell what the drop is by measuring from the wheel wells?
1.8" = approx. 45mm, so you're not getting contradicting information. Just gotta know your imperial to metric conversion

I ran AGXs on my 93 Si... I was completely satisfied with them. If you want a balanced ride, run them around 2 and 2. If you want to make the car a little more tail-happy, tighten up the rear to 4 and leave the fronts at 2. If you want to make the car a bit stiffer all over, leave it at 4 in the back and up the front to 3.

Oh, and get swaybars. Your 6th gen hatch definitely doesn't have a rear, not sure about the front. Get some swaybars and get some decent tires and you'll notice a hell of a lot of difference.

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you could always try new springs, say H&R sports, say the ones i'm selling you can find out about in the link below or pm me.

a spring like H&R with the AGX's should be nice as long as the AGX are in good shape. also try stiffening the shock up and see if that helps. with Illuminas on 1 the car was not firmly planted, its too soft, on 5 its like a brick, so try playing with the shocks too.
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Old 05-Nov-2005, 02:11 PM
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i have it set to 1 and 1
the front are adjusted from 1-4 and the rear from 1-8
so, 2-2 is balanced?

i know 2 is essential for the front if i want good response, but maybe 3 or 4 might be good for the back... any suggestions? cause the back i find seems a little loose...
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1 and 1 are the softest settings. You drive a front wheel drive car, and like I said before, you're without swaybars (at least in the rear), so to reduce the understeer effect you want to tighten up the rear. Increasing the shocks in the rear to 3 or 4 will help to balance it out.

When I had my EJ1 and was competing in autocross events, I had my front set to 2 and the rear set to 4. I also had a GSR rear swaybar, but even without a rear swaybar, you should notice your car handles a bit more neutral with the rear set to 3 or 4.

Now, by loose do you mean it seems too tail-happy or do you mean it seems to not be tight enough to naturally follow the direction you want it to travel in a turn? Please explain what you mean by "loose" and we'll see if we can answer your question better.
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1 an 1 is like stock soft, try the setting, play with them. try 3 front, 6 rear....if thats too stiff, try 2 front, 4 rear. 3 front, 4 rear may be nice too, play around with it.

1 and 1 or even 2 and 2 is soft as hell.

even 1 front 8 rear will not make a big difference with rear bias handling, its a shock. if you want that, get a large rear sway bar.
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well, its noticeably loose that it feels almost like the back is a little late turning in when i make the turn. as well, whenever i go over a bump it seems the person in the back gets tossed up a bit. my brother said it was better than before, but will that improve if i stiffen it to 3/4 or something in the back?

also, is lowering it about 2 inches going to ruin the shock/strut at all? i have those apex springs, but i would rather have maybe eibach pro kit springs cause i heard they were like a perfect match for those shock/struts with their spring rate and 1.5" drop. any ideas on this?
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Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R (P/P)
lowers 1.5F/1.3R

should provide a softer ride as those rates are fairly soft, though not as soft as Tein S-tech. If your after a comfortable daily driver those shocks with those springs would probably work nice.

The rear is always slow to turn in of stock civics, a spring/shock will help if set up with more rear bias, but a rear sway bar will change that. my 22mm rear sway bar gives instant turn-in, i love it.
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Old 06-Nov-2005, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
well, its noticeably loose that it feels almost like the back is a little late turning in when i make the turn. as well, whenever i go over a bump it seems the person in the back gets tossed up a bit. my brother said it was better than before, but will that improve if i stiffen it to 3/4 or something in the back?
If you tighten up the shocks in the rear, it will reduce that feeling of late turn-in in the rear. It will, however, make it a bit more bouncy in the rear.

also, is lowering it about 2 inches going to ruin the shock/strut at all? i have those apex springs, but i would rather have maybe eibach pro kit springs cause i heard they were like a perfect match for those shock/struts with their spring rate and 1.5" drop. any ideas on this?
The AGX were not really designed to work well beyond a 1.8" drop, so you wll probably notice more bounce in your ride if you're lower than that.

I think many on this board will agree that one of the best combos out there are the AGX matched with a set of H&R Sports.
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