imported_SilverSleeper

I wish you the best of luck trying to find a front bar for this EK's. I ended saying **** it and bought mine new from Honda....

imported_mikepasini

yoyooyoy.. did you really have that hard of a time? lol...


so when are both of our friends bands going to have a show together? lol... make for another interesting night of me being drunk and stuck with no ride... lol.


did you ever check out that audio to go store? that kurt guy or whoever isi not there anymore... they have new either owners or a new manager.

VTEC_Thunder

The fact that you can adjust the compression and rebound seperately on these will really help your handling.....if your going to do road racing.

If not, single adjustment dampers will do quite well for driving on the street for alot less money.

imported_SaYjAiBaO

do you plan on competing with this car? if not then who cares what category you get put into with the mods you have. i just dont understand the logic behind all this. it seems like you're taking all the steps backwards. what happens when you do all this and get to the track and don't like the setup at all? if you really want to be a good driver then you would go learn on street tires first. learn the limits of the car because the limits of the car is totally different on the street compared to the track. learning on street tires first would make u a much better driver when you switch to r compounds. anyways, it seems like you have your mind pretty much set on what you want. we'll see how it goes. the only auto x events i hit up last year were at the brampton center and to go to circuits, i've only gone to shannonville which is pretty damn far away.

VTEC_Thunder

The point of adjustable dampers is so that you can change the setup if you don't like it. the dampers deeply affect how the car handles.

imported_2join performance

While the dampers are an important factor in how your car handles they dont have as pronounced an effect as spring frequency. Adjusting the rebound and compression is important to fine tune your car, but relying on it to solely change your suspension geometry would be a mistake.

imported_mikepasini

ha, i've always ridden on street tires and before you assume someone doesn't know how to drive or know the limits make sure you know them personally first. everyone that i know or has seem me drive can vouch for that and well, of course with street tires like you say. i am getting r compounds not to be a better driver, but so my car will hold on corners with increased speed, but the biggest part is so i can stop a lot faster if you must know. even summer tires lock up too quickly in the situations i find myself in. and if you could come for a ride with me, with twice as much as you've seen i could probably still scare the hell out of you on the street while listening to bob marley and blazing with a smile on my face. .
there is always lots to learn from others so if you are going to be entering any circuit events next year we will probably see each other there, as well as lapping days of course... i like to watch others drive and get pointers as well, makes us all better.

well, i never said i was relying on it to change my suspension geometry. I am looking for something for primarily the track and tarmac racing, but I will also be running it on the streets and comfort is of no concern. Like I said before, I will set it once once i have test time on the track and this is why i want the edfc for. so i can save my settings and then have an alternate setting for the street or highway... i just want it so i can soften up the compression/rebound for highway drives which I do a lot of and just cruisinig around the city. and when spirited driving is on the agenda, have a seperate setting for the streets.

I am well aware of the limits of my car (Bryce can vouch that we have tested them many times, sometimes learning a lesson, but never making the same mistake twice) and know what I am looking for in terms of what does what and what i am going to use it for.

VTEC_Thunder

Your right, you can't assume what someone knows about the limits of their car. Unless you've driven with them and know them personally.

I could take you guys on a road I know and make my passenger **** their pants...lol....muaahahaha...(not naming streets so don't ask ) How fast a car can go has alot to do with the driver and his/her knowledge of their own cars limits, and knowledge of the track their racing on.

As for dampers and springs affecting your handling....yes your spring rate will ultimately show a greater change in the handling of a car, but dampers are highly under rated and missunderstood (not saying anyone here doesn't understand what a damper does). A really good set of dampers with seperately adjustable compression and rebound, or even a 3 way adjustable set (with high and low speed compression adjustment and rebound adjustment) CAN have a deeper affect on the handling characteristics of a car than you may think.

Your dampers deeply help control weight transfer: side to side, forward to back on accel, and back to forward on braking, and all combinations there of.

Can you find out if the dampers you are looking at are digressive, progressive or linnear? This also affects how the dampers will perform. You'll want a stiffer setting for lower damper piston velocity and a softer setting for high damper piston velocity. Most weight transfers (deaccelerating, turning into a corner) happens with lower damper piston velocities so a stiffer setting here will help give the car much better response and keep the tires on the ground. hitting a large rut or bump, you'll want a softer setting so that tire doesn't 'bounce' off the track, instead it's allowed to move up then quickly back down to maintain contact with the track.



I love discussing this kind of stuff!! .....yeah, I'm a geak!

Nova_Dust

You mean, springs?

VTEC_Thunder

By dampers, I mean shock absorbers.

Springs are.....uh.....springs.

imported_SilverSleeper

Yes I did....You'll see a whole load of rear sway bars for the EK come up for sale. The front sway is like the rear OEM lip; rare. If you spot one, grab it right quick.

My friend's band (Instamentalz) is playing th Smiling Buddha again and I have another band of a friend (The Steady Rollers) who is playing another couple shows around the GTA. I doubt whether those will play together with LTE since it seems Bryce is moving on up doing a gigs in LA and all.

Nova_Dust

I just never heard of digressive, progressive or linnear shock absorbers.

imported_InVaDeR_HB

I think i am going to go with Ksports myself, just trying to find best pricing on them, looks like they have better reviews than the PIC's and they are cheaper too....also doent ******** charge more for the PIC's then they they are listed for on PIC's website (CDN)?

kwasley

1100 is a bit pricey.
there are some other reputable full coilovers that you can get from the states for under 900.
check h-t for more.

btw, ill take the race springs off you.

JdmRice

I have yet to see a negative review about the pic's, If u compare the specs of pic's to ksports you can clearly see which one is better.

Proven, repeatable track performance should be the determining factor in choosing a coilover, but its easy to be blinded by the bling and small price tags.

VTEC_Thunder

Yeah, not many ppl have....

It's pretty cool stuff.....google it.