Nova_Dust

Do I need to jack up the car each side while I install the plates, then put on the bar or I can just crawl under and do it then?

Thanks guys

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

install plates as you see fit -- if you need more elbow room, jack it up.

install the bar with the car on the ground, so as to correctly pre-load the bar.

imported_BoOsTd

put it up on steady jack stands!!!! My moms neigbour died from a car fallin on him while under an improperly supported car...

Reason I say this is cuz A: you wont fit under the car without raisning it up abit.. And B: I say sturdy cuz you will be right under the car with your head right beneathe the iner ends of the controll arms tuggins and pulling hard on the ratched to free the main bolt....

Its easiest if you jack up both sides...get it all done at once .... you will save a **** load of time..

Just make sure the car is strudy on the stands!! you will be applying allot of force under there, and its probably the worst place to be if the car ever fell...

Another sudjestion to make your life easier... spray the bolts with liquid wrench 15 minuits before you crack the bolts... It will be a breeze of a job if you do that...

mount both brackets, then attach bar

imported_BoOsTd

Installed the bar loosly, then lowered the car..you can reach in and tighten to fit, when its on the ground.

Nova_Dust

Crap, I only got the factory jacks... I can't trust those tiny little jacks....

Damn....

imported_BoOsTd

thats way to scetchy for me.... It would take way longer but you could jack up one side pull the wheel off, and maybe reach in through the wheel well... it might be awkward and more work, but ists better than trusting those jacks... Canadian tire has a jack and stand combo for under 100$, worth the investment IMO??

Nova_Dust

True. I have always wanted to purchase a set of jacks and a hydrolic jack. Never found the time... LOL

I was trying under the car and I couldn't even move the nuts one bit... I give up. I will either get a set of jacks or, next time I do oil change I will just ask the friend to install the plates for me, then I can put on the bar myself afterwards.

Would a w40 losen up the nuts a little?

imported_BoOsTd

no..buy a small can of liquid wrench..it works wonders

Nova_Dust

I see, thanks bud

punkindrublic

you can get just the hydro jack for $30 at crappy tire... i saw that combo thing too can't remember the price but they for sure have a jack for $30

imported_BoOsTd

^^^ so worth it

TauMax

anybody know if you can "feel" a noticeable performance increase with a lower tiebar in the rear installed?

Or is this just a superficial mod?

imported_jj2ii3344

Nova bro! I have some jacks at home, you wanna use??q

punkindrublic

couldn't you also just raise the car with ramps?? as then the bar would be properly loaded and you can safely get under the car

imported_BoOsTd

yep...that should work fine as long as the car isnt lowered of it has an Aftermarket rear bumper, to get in the way of clearing the ramps...

I noticed more steering response with mine installed...its not just a show thing, they actually strengthen the frame...

Nova_Dust

Thanks for all the helps, and on Sat afternoon, my neighbour and I installed the bar together. We were having a garage sale and towards the afternoon, I was bored and less people show up so I figure might as well give it a try before the sun goes down.

So he told me he has 2 ramps available. So I borrowed it and backed my car onto them. We losen the bolt but it was hard to pull it out. Plus, the car is not in the air. Well, not lifted that is and there are still force on the control arm so we too off the tires, and jack up the car so both of us can work from below and side of the car.

Now the tie bar is on, I really notice some cornering difference despite my tires are **** and that OEM suspension set up. I have the front tower installed a while ago and I noticed a tiny difference. Now with the 2 together, I think it should help a lot.

Next would be a rear tower bar, rear sway bar and a front low tie bar. Maybe a C-pillar bar if I can find one.

Si98

the guy who installed and tightened my lower rear tie bar did it while the car was hoisted up in the air. does it make a difference?

imported_zhu

u should feel the most difference with rear sway bar
especially on civics that don't come stock with one

imported_Mashimaro

i feel that it's pretty bling to have one, but i also bought a Skunk2 tiebar cuz i installed a Skunk2 swaybar as well. i'm hoping the tiebar will help save me from ripping my subframe out (though there are other factors as well).



Nova_dust - dood man, seriously invest in a good jack and jackstands if you plan on doing a lot of work at home.

Si98

what's a good brand to get? and how many tonnes of support is enough for a civic?