imported_Dawson

i wanted to know if a usdm 89 teg motor will bolt into a ef ive heard all along that it cant but then i heard some people saying that it would so im so confused cause i want a DOHC motor but dont wanna spend alot i could get my hands on a 89 teg motor for dirt cheap and wanna know if it is at all possible


im sorry i tryed searching but came up with nothin

im guess bbarbulo is gonna have my answers cause he seams to be the d series guru

thanks


and i know that the usdm 88-89 teg motors dont have much more power over a d16a6 so dont just say its a waste of my time cause the cars motor is gone right now

zeeman

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well with the proper mount kit it will "bolt right in"
As for wiring, if your car is already MPFI then it will plug right in seeing as both the car and the new engine are obd0. But if you have a DX and its DPFI then you first have to convert to MPFI, which is only really 6 wires or so.
I'd say go for it. Since you can get a b18a1 for pretty cheap now a days, it would totally be worth it.

imported_Dawson

isnt a 88-89 teg motor a d series

isnt it like a d16a1 or a d16a3

imported_Dawson

but yeah the car its going into has had a **** load of swaps done on it but im still in college and dont have the money to go b series so i wanna go mad cheap ghetto d series

zeeman

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ohhhh riiiight. Its the ZC isn't it? Well either way. You can seriously get a b18a1 swap for like $500. Then all you would need is a mount kit and shift linkage (or customized integra linkage)
So you car is currently Multi Point Fuel Injected? Does it have 4 fuel injectors in the intake manifold? Or just two in the throttle body?

imported_Dawson

no its a 89 si with the mpfi ive put like 5 motors in the car but know i just wanna try to do a mad cheap d series cause im still in college and i just got a 05 civic

zeeman

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then get a d16z6 (92-95 si), a whole swap can be had for dirt cheap, plus IMO its the best of the d-series.

imported_Dawson

yeah but ive already had a z6 and a y8 and a mini me and a a6 and a d15b i wannna go d series dohc this time

bbarbulo

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ingtegra should be be a lot like a regular JDM ZC engine, so yeah, it should bolt in like any d-series would.

I say try it and find out!! most ppl don't do this kinda stuff, cuz it's kinda a waste of time... like Accord single cam F20 engines in Civics... and so on... though even that has been done before.

imported_viper_2_4

aren't those integras the ones with the brown top ZC, which I think I have heard shares most of the parts with the more common black top one, but uses different mounting points or something.....why not just get a 88-91 JDM ZC blacktop?...

zeeman

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yeah, i've heard that the integra ZC's mount too close to the firewall and won't work too. Its something about the timing belt side mount being too far on the firewall side, while the JDM ZC's are closer to the bumper.

bbarbulo

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you can relocate your engine mount to mount like the integras if you really wanted to to place the engine properly. prolly some cutting/welding involved. but for the cost/hassle... it makes more sense to swap a D16Z6 in there.

imported_Dawson

i was lookin and where you would regularly mount it and that is where the power steering pump is mounted on that motor and it
almost lookis like you could just swap it ? but im not sure ill give it a try and let all you know

bbarbulo

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pics and writeup please to breaking 'new' ground... I'm sure others have done it... but yeah... hot-rodding at it's best. necessity is the seed of invention

mdt920

I like this idea the best or just a zc. If you are on a budget these are probably pretty good.

I have a crx and decided to go z6 rather than zc. Simply for the parts availabilty in canada. Im not a fan of mixing and matching (zc). Z6 you know you can walk into a dealership or find parts for it cheap on the boards. With all the motors you've had had. Even selling them for dirt cheap you wouldve had enough $$$ to put into any one of the motors to make decent power.

My z6 Ijust happend to get lucky with its build & all of the parts.
ALL MOTOR baby. Its not gonna be the fastest but it'll be enough to make me happy. Yes I know Bseries would be faster & I may get bored BUT for me its perfect I have better places to spend my money!

imported_Dawson

^^^^ well said

spracingsports

if its d series wont it bolt straight in???

we put a JDM ZC SOHC straight into an ED hatch... in my front yard

imported_Dawson

true true i just wasnt sure i think ill try it and see if it goes i just havent seen people do that swap so ill elect my self to be the first

dingus88

89 teg motor "brown top" wil NOT bolt into any civic cause it has different mounts PERIOD not to mention only 114 hp so a SOHC zc is pretty much there.

sohcnotec

I'm not sure if this helps or not, since this an 84-7 Civic ZC swap.
Maybe you'll find something useful:

http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/84-87hybrid/