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Old 09-Oct-2004, 08:00 PM
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if i upgrade my GSR brakes would i have ?...

if i upgrade my gsr brakes would i have better stopping power then a type-r?
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Old 11-Oct-2004, 12:26 AM
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i dont know what "breaks" are.

On a side note if you upgrade to gsr brakes you will not have better stopping power than an R. My hatch has gsr brake setup and i still cant outbrake R's on the track.
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^thats horney
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Old 11-Oct-2004, 01:35 PM
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lol ok i have spelling issues

but yes thanks for the imput

i was saying if i upgrade my gsr brakes to 11" or higher in the front would i have better stopping power than a type-r


and bbarbulo i dont understand wat u are trying to show me on that pic.
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Old 11-Oct-2004, 01:49 PM
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WILWOOD is wut he is trying to show u
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Nice pic...Wow those brakes are HUGE... look behind the rim.
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i dont even know wat wilwood is but i will research that.

but my question is still unanswered
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Old 11-Oct-2004, 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by GrEEn
i dont even know wat wilwood is but i will research that.

but my question is still unanswered
Originally posted by 1sloweg
i dont know what "breaks" are.

On a side note if you upgrade to gsr brakes you will not have better stopping power than an R. My hatch has gsr brake setup and i still cant outbrake R's on the track.
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Re: if i upgrade my GSR brakes would i have ?...

ok im going in circles here i asked originaly if i upgrade my gsr brakes to larger than type-r brakes would i have better stopping power then the ITR?

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if i upgrade my gsr brakes would i have better stopping power then a type-r?

i have gsr brakes! if i upgrade them to lLARGER THAN ITR BRAKES will my car stop faster than an ITR??

i ve repeated it 3 times so you dont get confused when trying to answer the question.

thanks in advance

and bbarbulo those are nice
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You have to say what you are upgrading to.
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most likely if there bigger that itrs but its just not the brakes its the suspension and chassis that has something to do with the braking abilities too
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does the car ur putting the brakes on have abs ???
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Old 13-Oct-2004, 03:17 PM
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it boils down to this... there is too many factors to take into account when answering your question. From master cylinder size, to brake line material, to brake fluid, to pad material, to tire choice, to rotor hardness and size, and even your wheel choice. All these things will affect stopping ability, not to mention your rear setup. You say you have GSR brakes currently, and you would LIKE to oubrake ITRs. Well, start by lowering rotational mass. Start by increasing pad contact area, and caliper/piston contact area. Change pad material.

Decide, what's the biggest wheels you're willing to run? How much money do you have? When do you brake?

SIZE is not all that's involved. You could spec out a system based on OEM GSR parts that would can stop better than an ITR, but how long are the rotors gonna last, how long are the pads gonna last, and how much noise and dust will you be able to put up with??

Tell me, what do you use your car for?? I had SiR brakes before the Wilwoods, and IMO, that was enough braking power for 95% of ppl out there. Tires are the #1 deciding factor in brake performance, next comes pad material and rotor hardness. There are pads out there that use rotors as friction material, so the rotor wears out before the pad.
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Old 13-Oct-2004, 04:03 PM
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4 piston caliper bling!

I say you just upgrade the rotor + pad and you will be fine, for starters that is. Then you move to stainless steel braided brake lines, 4/6 piston calipers, larger size rotors (with larger wheels of course) and whatever else Bbarbulo mentioned.

If Integra calipers were designed to stop a car with 170HP and ITR with 200, unless your car is producing that much HP, or more, OEM Integra braking system should be enough for your daily use.
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well i got a 1.8 ls motor right now and the reason i got that first is cause the old motor went along with rad, and other misc parts that i was sick of fixing.

i use my car mostly for going to work but on weekends i like to go nice long rides up north or any where that has a good trail.

i have a ITR break booster and break master cylinder cause old want was waaaay overdue to be change and 15" rims SIR. i got pretty much stock tires and no chasis upgrades such as sway bars etc.

in the mail is my tokico illumina shocks and right now i got the Pro Kit springs. which i had for a while now.

i want to feel safe while stopping and not get a shaking wheel like i do now. eventually i would like to take it to the track for a few test runs for the fun on it.


thxs for the imput.
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If I were you, I would replace the rotor and the pads first. But if money allows, you can always source out a 4 piston caliper set.
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If you just service your GSR brakes that you have currently, and replace your front pads with some good Williams Friction or Hawk pads, you'll be all set.
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Alot of good imput. I would deffinetly concider a rotor upgrade "kit", that is the most economical way to get more out of your O.E. brake calipers. I just got the carbon black AEM rotor upgrade kit, it comes with the caliper repositioning brackets and deff made a poitive effect on my braking response.
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Shaking in the wheel is a warped rotor. if you replace it with any new rotor that will stop.

I liked the crossdrilled rotors I had. no brake fade. no glazed pads. goes though pads faster.
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