Pyro

like the title says...i have $5k and a jdm b18c5 with lsd tranny swapped into my EK coupe (and NOT swapping it out)...

I've already got the suspension and stuff planned out, so this 5k will be used on improving the motor...i've read up on a bunch of stuff with turbos and NA but i'm still kinda new to the scene so most of the stuff i read just flies over my head.

What can i do with 5k? My goal is to make HOPEFULLY 350-400whp and run a decent low-mid 13's on the track (the lower the better) Please take into account the cost of labour.

Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

imported_t_dot_SiR

the itr motors are not really intended for turbo... not that you can't turbo it, but with the high compression, you would be putting money on lowering the compression and stuff (which is why did you start with a c5 if you not gonna make use of its compression?) then you want a longer gear transmission (like LS or GSR tranny) to make good use of the boosting IMO

so if you're sticking with the c5, you should go n/a
like get some really good (well proven) i/h/e, along with some more aggressive cams and upgrade the valvetrain, (get lsd if your tranny doesn't come stock with it..) then you might want some hondata head gasket, and some good tuning, you should squeeze out lots of power out of that motor...

talk to zeeman i'm sure he has a huge list of recommendation

chris_si98

with 350-400whp i hope you'd be running way better than low 13s.

Anywho.. my advice would be to sell the c5, purchase a solid c1 and boost it.

Pyro

yeah not planning to sell the c5 or swap it out...

chris_si98

so your gona build a low compression c5 block?

Pyro

never said i plan on boosting

wanted to know what i can do to put out more hp with the setup i'm running right now

don't really care how, as long as it works and is a reliable set up

I'm open to any suggestions that don't include me selling or swaping my c5 out but thanks =) i already know that's one of my options but let's call that plan b....or umm last resort lol

imported_starboy869

N2O

imported_Zyepher

Yes of course lets spend $5000 on nitrious

chris_si98

This thread is definately not going to go anywhere.

You said you want 350-400whp then you just said you want reliablity, well guess what? The two don't go together. To get above 250whp your gona have to boost, I don't care what anybody says (thats if you plan on still city driving the car)

IF you don't want to go the F/I route then research headwork on a b18c5 on honda-tech, there are about a million threads about it. You'll definately be in the low 13s after 1500-2000$ of headwork/bolt-ons done to your car. Then of course a nice dynotune.

If you still want more power.. with the high compression the c5 has.. it's in your best interest to research ways to reduce detonation, methanol injection, aftercoolers, IC/water systems, etc.

Nova_Dust

350 to 400 whp, that's doubling what you have right now, and you need to pay for labour, I don't think 5K will get you that.

This is a stock C5 engine? What else is done?

dingus888

5 k = built head ie valve springs retainers high comp valve's mild port job

thin headgasket

rocket motorsports m22X or skunk 2 pro 1 cams

chrome tuned

that should get you up in the 200 whp range which will be good for low 13's with a good tire no prob

brianmcgaugh

all you would need is forged internals to lower the compression and make the bottom end a bit stronger, and a simple turbo setup. The thing that will get you is that you want to spend 5K and need to pay for work done.
I doubt you could do it for $5k, like already said sell the ITR and get a gsr, youd make some $ off the ITR that will help you get to your goals.
and with 400whp youll make 11 sec passes no problem, given you can drive @ all

Pyro

engine is stock, did intake and exhaust, got some NGK spark plug wires that need to be put on, that's about it

5k isn't really my "budget" per se.....it's more of the price i'm hoping to spend....i will fork out more cash if need be to get a good job done....but i'm hoping 5k will be enough to get me a job well done on my car

hmmm.....so 200ish whp is enough to give me low 13's eh? I guess i can lower my goals then....250-300 whp should suffice

Mugen Power

supercharge that *****, destination reached. with 5K or so at your disposal, upgrade the VT, JR charger w/LHT cooler, tuning, cheap *** kamikaze, 3" cat back. done. you'll have a street monster....well, for the chassis.

imported_dr.drew1987

my friend runs 12.2 with fully built b16a2 and nitrous making 240whp so i think 3-4 hundred would be quite quicker. i personally dont like the idea of supercharging, turbo kit would be a good idea, for 5K you could turbo and run a nitrous kit.

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

you won't be able to pay someone to build your engine and turbo it for $5K. You'll be able to turbo it for $5K after EVERYTHING all said and done. And another $3000 to have someone pull the engine out to build it for boost.
$5K in terms of a n/a build would get you pretty far, but no where near 400whp. Peronally thats what i would do, build it for n/a and if you have any $$$ left over grab some N20, that will get you pretty close to your power goals on like a 100 shot (wet).

brianmcgaugh

I agree on the turbo vs supercharger
but i dont think hed be able to boost and run nitrous for $5k
hes looking for someone to do the work...and also hes going to need tuning, and depending on the whp goal mabe forged internals
$$$

imported_t_dot_SiR

250whp n/a is pretty fast...

i've seen a car 250whp n/a live upto a 350whp f/i

for your info and i'm not kidding...

n/a motors are no jokes, you don't really need 400whp on an n/a motor to really rape others

c5 n/a best results
c1 f/i best results

for 5k, you're better off go n/a on your c5... probably get around 250-260whp depends on who build it and who tunes it.

Mugen Power

the ONLY reason n/a cars hang with fi is due to its traction advantage over a forced motor. hit it on the roll @ 50-70mph and the all motor car will lose sight of the forced car.

LEITNER

its funny how the guy asks a question and gets an argument out of all the know it alls...someone tell him what he can do and be done with it...pyro33, if you want the straight goods pm me and i will tell you what you can do but im done getting into arguments with everyone.