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Old 27-Jul-2004, 09:35 PM
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Hydroplaning

I notice my car tends to hydroplane quite a bit with the summer rims on. I have 17" Enkei RS-5 Rims, 205 40 17 (Kumho 711). Is there a reason for this? Is there anything i can do to correct the situation.

The tires only have 10,000km, and I drive pretty tame (I've only locked up the brakes twice in the last year, and skidded a bit).
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Old 27-Jul-2004, 09:37 PM
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its the tires... the 711 isn't the greatest performance tire
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do you KNOW what hydroplaning means? explain it to us, I almost have the feeling you don't know what it is or how it feels
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Old 27-Jul-2004, 09:50 PM
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i felt it on the way to work today... freaky times... it was magnified by my alignment i did last night in my driveway
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Old 27-Jul-2004, 09:59 PM
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how much tread depth do you have? are your tires correctly inflated? (state the pressures anyways) how deep was the water you went through? there are many factors that can effect hydroplaning...

and for bruno.. hydroplaning is when the tires stop making direct contact with the pavement and have a layer of water between the pavement and the tire creating the effect of riding on water which is a fun situation to control..
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Originally posted by gatherer
how much tread depth do you have? are your tires correctly inflated? (state the pressures anyways) how deep was the water you went through? there are many factors that can effect hydroplaning...

and for bruno.. hydroplaning is when the tires stop making direct contact with the pavement and have a layer of water between the pavement and the tire creating the effect of riding on water which is a fun situation to control..
If the tire is not designed to push the water out, it can happen even in low water collection.
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
do you KNOW what hydroplaning means? explain it to us, I almost have the feeling you don't know what it is or how it feels
Perhaps you're right...

My understanding is that hydroplaning is when you're moving too fast over a wet surface, and this speed prevents your tires from channeling away water from the centre of the tire. The result of this, is that the tires lose contact, and travel (albeit momentarily, only a second or so) on a channel of water. Honestly, I'm not 100%, but I think that's what it is. The reason why I say hydroplaning, and not skidding, is because I lost my ability to stop and steer completely...and it felt totally different than the wheels locking up.

Oh, and when I said I tend to hydroplane quite a bit, I meant 2 or 3 times during the course of the summer...which may not seem like a lot, but to me, seems extremely dangerous.


I checked my tire pressures...roughly 29-30psi for all
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you are correct, that's what it is... usually happens in extreme flash floods or when you rawk tires with low tread depth

note that the faster you go, the more water your tires gotta pump out per unit of time, so reducing your speed even 10 km/hr will help to stop the hydroplaning. what can I say... some tires downright suck in the rain. drive carefully.
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
you are correct, that's what it is... usually happens in extreme flash floods or when you rawk tires with low tread depth

note that the faster you go, the more water your tires gotta pump out per unit of time, so reducing your speed even 10 km/hr will help to stop the hydroplaning. what can I say... some tires downright suck in the rain. drive carefully.
That is so true, I started to hydroplane on the 401 coming back from the meet a couple of weeks ago (it was raining so hard water was collecting in the lane faster than it could run off), I just let off on the gas. Another time I had to drive through a puddle that was as high as my front lip and I experienced zero problems. (I am however happy that the town of Whitby has since fixed that drainage problem.)

What is the tread on Kuhmo 711's like??
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Originally posted by electronblue


If the tire is not designed to push the water out, it can happen even in low water collection.
yes thats true forgot to add tread design to my list....

as for next year I'll have 2 sets of tires one for rain one for dry....not sure yet which I'll use for the wet
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Old 28-Jul-2004, 06:28 AM
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Hydroplaning is half the fun of driving in the rain!!!!! i have the same tires on my car and they have almost bit the biscut. There is about 1.5mm left unitl the wear indicators. I very rarly hydroplane and I do tonnes of highway driving, I put on about 20k since may and everyone knows how terrible the weather has been. When it happens, dont get on the gas hard, either maintain throttle position or back off the gas and enjoy the change from a boring drive through crappy conditions to a heart pounding, no steering whole bowl of fun. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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"That is so true, I started to hydroplane on the 401 coming back from the meet a couple of weeks ago (it was raining so hard water was collecting in the lane faster than it could run off), I just let off on the gas. Another time I had to drive through a puddle that was as high as my front lip and I experienced zero problems. (I am however happy that the town of Whitby has since fixed that drainage problem.) "


they have not!
lol

garden st and thickson were both flooded a few storms ago...1 guy form this board hydro locked his motor goin through a puddle on garden st!
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get these bad boys!!! they cut through water like moses parting the red sea!!!
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Here's a link for a pic of the tread on my Kumho 711s. I don't know **** about tire tread...but I went outside, and measured my remaining tread with a ruler...and I got about 5mm of tread (hope that makes sense, I'm probably not measuring properly at all).

http://www.emwheels.com/tires/kumho/ku711.jpg
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Old 28-Jul-2004, 09:26 PM
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EH NEIL!!!!

So...what do you think of training so far?

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khumo isn't the greatest tire to begin with...

get some nice toyo, or some nice bridgestone.

a friend of mine has the same hatch as me, and he's got khumo. complains about hydro'ing all the time.

im running bridgestone. and love em....
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Old 29-Jul-2004, 09:02 AM
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those Kumhos look like 1980s rain technology... pure crap. I'm getting another set of Yokohama Parada Spec 2 on Monday, and a set of Yokohama Avid Touring for all season use on the other car later in the week... and I already have a new set of Bridgestone Weatherforce tires for my winter car. I love new tires!
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LOL late as always
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