civic?eww?y?

Just wondering.

imported_GoldBadge

You just opened a can of worms with this thread.

To be honest, there is probably one a couple in Toronto that have driven a real JDM ITR and an 8th gen Si. Your best bet is to search for articles and reviews by proven journalists.

DumbasSi

I've driven a new Si and a Type S. IMO from the short drives I had, the Si handles better then the S. The Si has LSD, better tires and a re-designed/upgraded version of the Macpherson strut suspension that the S has.

DC5R has more power, LSD, bigger brakes and probably a stiffer suspension all around.

Nova_Dust

DC2-ITR was a production race car with an affordable price tag, near 50/50 corner weight with a driver that's close to 150lbs, fine tuned suspension work.

8th gen Si, I doubt it.

imported_GoldBadge

That's what I was thinking.

Put them in neutral and push em down a street luge course...lol I bet the ITR would be much better.

imported_JookSingKid

ITR is the grittier car. Rawer and grippier.

Remember the 97 ITR had no AC, no Moon Roof, stripped down sound insulation.

8th Gen Si is lots of fun and plenty quick, but a much more refined car and more comfortable ride.

DumbasSi

I thought he meant the RSX version. D'oh!

imported_mikepasini

plus, it looks like a minivan!!!! hahahah... the dc2 looks pimp... i always see one near my boy's work and it has one yellow light in the front... it has a conversion i am sure, but i wonder whats under the hood...

i bet i could take it...
anyone have some off the line numbers on the new 06 si? like 0-100km/hr and quarter mile and stuff?

Xscorpio

rsx version is called DC5 Michael, DC2s are integra type

coreyhayman

a type-r will run laps around a 8th gen si, simple as that

imported_Team Rukus

lol this question should even be posted.
we are talking about a track ready car compared to a fast grocery getter.


edit: what you also have to remember is that all production R models where made with one thing in mind TRACK/RACE that being said they arent even the same as the other trims in the same bodyshape.

kwasley

1st i hope your not talking about the type r


i bet you couldent.
gsr motor<TYPE R MOTOR
gsr tranny << TYPE R TRANNY

and if your talking about the new si, which has more whp and tq than the rsx-s then i bet your gsr motor/tranny coudlent take it either.

LSD OWNS YOU!!!

imported_viper_2_4

bench racing sucks.....

but I would tend to think the ITR would take the new Si, but its not like it would be a drastic win....

imported_Team Rukus

i seen a video along time ago of an itr beating a skyline in a togei race. i dont think the si will be much of a challenge.

Tego

All this talk and now I want an ITR!

********!

Xscorpio

yea i have a dvd from best motoring on type R, i think its called "the leagend of type R" and they shows how, engine internals are totally diffrent then normal engine, and they are doing race challenges against other cars etc, its prety cool dvd.

civic?eww?y?

Price: $31,000 (sighs, thinks back and regrets not getting one)

2000 Spec Canadian DC2R - Curb Weight is 2639lbs

Engine
195@8000
130@7300

Final Drive: 4.785 (UK) (5spd)

Double Wishbone Front and Rear
Multiple reinforcements to the chassis: too much to list
No sunroof


15'' x 6'' wheels on 195/55R15 tires





Price: 25,880 (high priced)
2006 Civic Si - Curb weight 2881lbs (taken from Honda.com)


197@7800
139@6100

Final Drive 4.764:1 (6spd)

Control-Link MacPherson Strut Front
Reactive-Link Double Wishbone Rear

The rear upper arm bracket, rear bulkhead, and rear stabilizer mount brackets have all been reinforced. (vtec.net)
And the coupe is stiffer than the sedan, regardless of trim.
+sunroof
17'' x (?) 215/45R17

Just the facts are above

civic?eww?y?

I'd like to say thanks for shedding light on the topic. I got got really amped up from all the reviews about this car. It was hyped up quite alot on various forums.

Good thing you guys gave me a realistic idea of this car.

thanks!



("Sports Car" magazine has a realistic review of this car in their current issue)

They pinpoint the weight being a huge factor.

imported_GoldBadge

There's that video of the ITR competeing in the JDM 2.0L Turbo class endurance race.

The RX-7 caught up on the last lap or two.

The ITR beat Imprezas, MR2s, Silvias, 3000gt (i think), etc...and did it with a N/A 1.8L engine while the rest were all turbo 2.0L.

imported_mugenpowered

There is a review of it in today's Star.
The review says it has a 2.4L engine .

Actually, too bad tcc wasn't in that review, instead it was clubsi. He went to one of their meets with it and talks about their club for a bit. Would have been good to see tcc get that kind of coverage.

And there is no doubt in my mind that DC2R > 06 Si.