03SilverCiv

how much?

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

i don't know why anyone would want to swap in a DOHC ZC into their 7th gen civic....put a 4th gen motor in a 7th gen car??!!??!?
To hell with that, i say go carburated, go with the 87 civic engine, you won't have to worry abuot much of a wiring harness or ecu.....lol.

N20 is your friend if you don't want to swap or go turbo.

imported_starboy869

For A D17a2 head or that POS ZC?

Honestly it sounds like you want to do things on the cheap. I wouldn't even consider the old pos ZC

rice-01

these swap combinations being suggested are a waste of time.
b16 ainto a 7thgen civic is still expensive.
ZC into a 7thgen is the worst idea i have ever heard do they even make mounts for that?

if you are going to swap its going to be expensive.

btw getting 200-220hp is going to be hard to achieve unless you are willing to drop the money for the power.

imported_redlineracer

just go the boost route man......that's your best option

03SilverCiv

arrite sounds like a plan. i wish there was more **** for this engine and it wasnt to ****ty. what makes it so ****ty anyways? like theres gota be something to be restricting it like that. i dont even get it. how can the 1.6l engines pump more power than the 1.7 it should be the opposite no?

imported_starboy869

You would think that would the way things go.

Take the B20 only 140HP vs a B16 @ 160HP, B17/B18C 180 ish and the B18c5 190 hp.

DumbasSi

The D17 was designed for fuel economy and reliability, not performance.

I doubt any of the ZC/B-series swaps would work anyway. The 01+ Civics motor is only the other side of the engine bay and would be a huge PITA to swap. A k-series would probably be easier.

rice-01

the main reason it is difficult to make power with the 1.7 is because of the emissions controls on the engine.

Here are some useful links for the 01-05 civic.

FAQ1:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1759217

FAQ2:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/556968