imported_DT80

is this hard to do or even doable at home??

punkindrublic

if you have cam gears its really easy to do at home

Jugglez

you'll need a timing gun

here's a how-to

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/timing/timing.php

bbarbulo

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takes 10 minutes and a strobe inductive timing light...

imported_DT80

darn. i don't ahve those tools.. anyone know where i can go to check and perhaps advance my timing?? how much does this cost?? or someone that has the strobe inductive timing light wanna help me out?

bbarbulo

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Walmart, the light is quite cheap... you are advancing timing?? Sounds dangerous to me based on you not having tools to do it. It's quite simple, and a great cheap power mod... but you pay for it in terms of using 94 octane or having a blown up motor with melted pistons

imported_BoOsTd

I know this may sound retarded, and people please dont flame me out on this one, cuz ive tryed it and it works if done properly ...If you want to advance your timing a few degrees safely and easily, you can trick you intake air sensor into thinking that colder air is entering your intake, which inturn tells the computer to advance the timeing. You can do this by inserting a small resistor in the IAS plugg. It works on obd2 computers, and im sure it works on obd1...but you do have to use 94octane and you suffer slight fuel milage loss while its installed.. the resistors can be purchaced at radio shack for less than 1 doller, and it take less than 5 minuits to install/uninstall, and it will not trigger a CEL.

It basically makes you car feel like it does the first thing in the morning when its all cold and peppy... the 94 octane is a must...

bbarbulo

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sounds reasonable... however, I was unaware that the ECU controls ignition, since we have a dizzy...it's a mechanical relationship between the cam(s) and the rotor and cap. To get a controllable ignition, you need like an MSD box... like the 6BDL or whatever that model # is.

imported_BoOsTd

o2 sensor affects timing...right?

bbarbulo

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nope, fuel

imported_BoOsTd

how can jet chips claim to change ignition curves with an ecu chip, if the ecu doesnt have anything to do with ignition?

bbarbulo

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for other cars with DIS systems, yes, not cars with distributors... a dizzy is a gear driven device that creates a fixed relationship between cams (which are via timing belt in direct relation to the crank)... and the rotor and cap are fixed on the dizzy body, so I don't really see any way for it to be adjustable via computer. The way to adjust it is with a timing light, loosen the body of the dizzy and turn one way or the other... one retards timing, other way advances.

The IAT trick causes the car to think its colder out, which makes it run richer... fuel economy suffers, and really it's just dumping more fuel in and slowly killing your O2 and catalytic... that is if you don't have the air present for it to combust at stochiometric ratios. You can do the same thing via an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and bump the pressure a slight bit to force more fuel through the injector in the given amount of time that the ECU sets as the pulsewidth. Approaching 85+% duty cycle, your injectors will fail and be stuck open....

bbarbulo

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DIS are like 7th gen Civics, Neons, Saturns, Proteges... tons of other cars, but not the 6th gen and earlier Civics.

imported_BoOsTd

ok that makes sense, I was under the impression that it adjusted the timing...I dont use the resistor mod, cuz I dindnt want to advance the timing with nitrous...still not going to use it tho cuz I like my gas saver honda but seriously it did pep it up when I had it installed.

bbarbulo

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Were you under ZEX when the resistor was installed... cuz more fuel will be peppier... to a point. But it's also a mental thing, and actual humidity levels and other variables day to day.

imported_BoOsTd

hey bbarbulo this is kinda interesting... This thing piggy backs the ecu

Honda Civic performance parts from Venom
Product Name: Venom 400 Performance Control Module
Description: Venom 400 for 92-95 Civic 1.5L w/VTEC
For: Honda / Civic
Availability: Usually ship out in 5 days
Retail Price: $379.95
Our Price: $339.95
*Shipping: $8.50
*Standard service for Venom 400 Performance Control Module ship within containental of The US, Additional shipping options available at checkout.
Note: Please specific Year, Make, Model, and Engine Size or Type when order. / Dimension  W 4.5, H 1.25, D 4.75 inches / Fit 1992 1993 1994 1995

Detail Description:
The VENOM 400 constantly monitors the vehicles throttle position senor (TPS) and manifold absolute pressure (MAP) or air mass sensor (MAS). When airflow entering the engine and the throttle position sensor reaches a predetermined level, the VENOM 400 is activated. The VENOM 400 then enters a strategy of sense and modify. It senses the sensor values, interprets them, then modifies them to increase performance. The existing on-board computer senses the modified values and increases fuel flow, " modifies the ignition spark curve " and transmission shift point (on automatics only). Once the sensor valves return to normal mode (like idle), the VENOM 400 switches back to sense only mode until conditions again warrant the high performance mode.

Link>>>
http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-5162.cfm

imported_BoOsTd

no I never sprayed with it installed

bbarbulo

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ZeX, I don't know how a company can get away with claiming such crap And look---> it's a 1.5 VTEC

I pee on Venom 400

bbarbulo

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can't you tell that's a generic writeup that they just post for every car application they have... a Civic uses a MAP sensor... yet they mention the MAS. Companies leave a lot to be desired in their descriptions these days

Jugglez

this thing is garbage. it can only run at partial throttle (it reads off the TPS) which is useless. you can achieve the same gains by pressing the gas pedal further.