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Old 27-Feb-2005, 09:40 PM
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help! car is still pulling left after alignment...wtf?!

ok i'm pretty pissed now because i spend about 500 bucks getting all new bushings for my suspension and control arms and getting them installed. then alignment to help my alignment issue which caused my inner sides to go bald. well i replaced those tires and drove around for 3 days and already noticed some wear. it pissed me off so i spent every penny i had to get all new bushings put in because my bushings were completely shot and i couldn't get an alignment done. after getting my bushings in i let it settle for a week or so and i just got my alignment done yesterday. my front left disc is warped a bit i think because i can hear the woot woot woot sound when i almost come to a halt. most of the time it goes to the left if i let go of the steering wheel but the weird thing is 1/10 times it'll swing to the right but not as much. i check air pressures and everything was fine. when i got my alignment done the guy said he just had to fix my tow because my tires were like this / \, causing premature wear. but it only took them like 20-25 minutes to fix it and i thought it was rather quick. can anyone help me because my tires were wearing down on the inside really fast. and my car is on stock height too! . when i drive on the highways it'll swing to the left slowly and i just can't seem to find out what the problem is. can anyone help? a slightly warped disc cant make my car sway to the left when the car is running can it? or was my alignment done improperly? somebody help PLEASE .
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Old 27-Feb-2005, 09:56 PM
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I would need the specs from the alignment report. All alignments if done properly should be set up for road crown (the slant of the road for water runoff). If you drive in the middle lane of the higway you will feel the pull more. (less road crown).
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 12:35 AM
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100% is your tires. U might have a bad tire like separated belt tire, or a bent rim. Try switching your front tires left to right and right to left. That should fix your problem. This is common for a tire pull. If u have brand new tires in the front that could possibly do that. Try switching it around then let us know. To do alignment on a honda is pretty easy. 25 min is a reasonable time. In honda's u can't really adjust the camber unless u get a camber kit. A warped disc won't make your car swing to the left while cruising. If u are pressing on the brakes and it pulls to 1 side then u know u got a problem maybe the caliper. Anyways don't worry too much. We deal with a lot of these tire problems everyday. No need to be pissed. This is only a minor thing. The guy that did alignment should know that the tire is pulling though and he should rotate the tires for u. They aren't that professional that's all i can say. Good luck with your car anyways.
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 12:39 AM
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i just bought brand new falken ziex tires. can't be a tire problem. anybody have any suggestions on any good alignment shops. i've been to 4 and 2 of them suck. the first one didn't know how to drive my car and grinded my first gear pretty bad and i told him to get out. the other 2 i dont know because they said they would take 3 hours. and the last one is the one i went to and there's still a problem. what would you recommend i do? can't switch my tires from right to left because they're only one way and i don't have access to a machine to do it properly. best i can do is switch it from front to back. anything else i should try before rotating my tires?
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 04:57 AM
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probably its a bent spindle, control arm, etc....
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 09:52 AM
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A bent spindle or control arm would show up on the alignment.
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 10:01 AM
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well when did this problem start?? did you hit anything in the slippery road conditions?? or did it just start on it's own. has anyone else driven the car? and toe IN makes the OUTSIDE of the tire wear, toe OUT makes the inside of the tire wear. How does the car feel driving?? steering nice and tight or does it wander?
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the problem was worse when i had my stock steelies but it's better now. the car wanders to the left. i didn't hit anything at all. i've been driving like an old grandma ever since i got my new tires.
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you didn't answer all my questions... did it do this when you got the car or did it start recently under your ownership?? how does steering FEEL? you want help you need to come forward with info that I ask for. I don't ask random questions for fun.
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car was like it unfortunately when i bought it and i didn't realize the issue until like 3 weeks after i bought it and i didnt drive it for 2 weeks because it was sitting in my garage waiting for me to get my g2. and as the steering, i can't tell you personally from my experiences because i don't know whats tight or loose. when the guy at next level test drove my car after installing the bushings he said the steering was loose but could be because i just installed the bushings? sorry.
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from just reading the title, its either your tires or your tie rods.

One of the other or both.
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 12:18 PM
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ok then, go to a meet and ask JSK to take your car for a drive. he can describe the steering feel on here, and then we'll know. cuz a worn out rack can wander and allow the car to just veer whateever way it wants. besides that, if the steering feels good to JSK, then I'll say you have some bent suspension peices where a previous owner got in a fight with a curb or something. Do all 4 of your wheels match, and are they OEM issue?? and by match, I mean, in color, condition, shape, size... EVERYTHING!
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 12:24 PM
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the east end meets? when are those? my main concern was basically if this will continue to wear out the inner of my tires as fast as before the alignment. the guy fixed the toe so it should be ok now right?

edit, nvm they're every wednesdays right, Kennedy Commons Meet? uhhh how do i get there because i don't know that area very well.
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Old 28-Feb-2005, 06:58 PM
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I tell u most of the time is the tires. did u get all 4 new tires? If u just got 2 u got to use the machine to take it off because they are direction tires i believe. U shouldn't have a front end problem since they did alignment ande everytime they do alignment they check for front end play. Since u've done alignment your tires should wear out evenly. Make sure u check every 2 weeks or a month to see how your tires are wearing and not have camber wear. When the car pulls to 1 side it won't wear out your tires anyways. Spend $20 and switch the tires around. Why waste more $$$ diagnosing. When u get brand new tires and u only got 2 of them the new ones should be put on the back most of the time so u don't get tire pull. If u don't want to spend $$$ then rotate the tires then and see for yourself. I'm sure that's the problem. Tell them to check for balance too if u can and separated belt.
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What lane of the highway do you drive in when the car pulls to the left? Did the shop give you a print out of the alignment specs? Just because an alignment was done, doesn't mean it was done properly. If you could give me the specs, then I have a place to start, to try to help. There are many things it could be. But it does sound like it might be something very simple.....
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didn't get the print out for the alignment, but yeah i did get 4 new tires. the car is straight when i hold the steering wheel straight but then the steering wheel drifts to the left a little bit and starts going to the left. so its not like the steering wheel is straight and my car is going left. i'll rotate the tires as soon as the weather clears up then come back with some more feedback.
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1 more question. Before u got the new tires was it pulling to the left too? If not then 100% u get a tire pull now. It always happens in my shop and i just switch them around or rotate them. It will disappear. If it was like that before u got your new tires then it could be other things, but not much it could be.
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it was worse before because my tires before were completely balled on the inside to the point where i could see the belt. it was pulling left and right like no tomorrow.
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I'm betting you got a hella beater with bent control arms. Just hope your frame isn't fuct.
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if you got your alignment done at any kind of decent shop, you should be able to go back, tell them about the problem and have them verify the correct alignment on the vehicle, as well road test it to check for your concerns... if they don't do any other that, i would raise hell like you wouldn't believe over it!!!
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