imported_mikepasini

just wondering what people think about this. I was thinking of selling my motor (b18c1) but just the block/head/I'm/em and I think that's it...

I was thinking I could just buy an h22 engine (block/head/im/em) and a b-series adapter plate and mate it to my s80 LSD tranny. wouldn't it not be like a gsr gearing wise but just be a torque monster?

am i thinking of this just too simply and is there more to it other than say 2 other engine mounts? can I use my existing tranny mounts?

I have not come across anyone with this setup and have been thinking more about it and I bet it would pull hard too.

chris_si98

h2b's rule. Go to the hybrid section on honda-tech to read more about them. I'm pretty sure h-series swaps have quite a bit of wiring to them though, the pros are you can still keep your hydro tranny and no shifter box. I'd do it for sure

Nova_Dust

It works. GSR not fast enough for you anymore Mike?

imported_Cablerat

damn that might be a better idea for me..

Gonna do some more research on this. Best part about this is that you can always go back to B series if you want.. No need to swap axles, or shift linkage.

Wonder what mount you need for the engine side. Tranny side and rear are already B. Wonder how much the kit costs too.

Honda-tech thread : http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1638988

imported_Zyepher

lol, you guys talk like oh hey its simple to do..

Bryce

imported_Cablerat

Well I've done H22 EGs and EKs myself, so this to me would be MUCH simpler.

Plus all I really need is an H22 engine and the H2B kit. Rest of the car is already intact.

imported_mikepasini

man... i've had this idea for awhile and yeah... no new axles and you can just swap it back t a b_series anytime. hw much aditional wiring does an h need?

but with the gsr tranny or crazier a b16 it would pull hard on anyof those cars for sure... imagine an h22 types with an itr tranny or evn just n lsd gsr.

also I have talked to a few peopl and they were saying my car won't handle well with the added weight in the front.anything I can do to counter that? stiffer springs maybe?

gooseshit

i've made the adapter plate to bolt b-series trannies to h22.......that was 2 years ago and they use to sell for $1000

gooseshit

mike if ur looking for more power i have a ls/vtec motor i can seell u for a really good price will even take ur grs motor....calll if interested

Bryce

hseries = 50lbs heavier than Bseries its not that much

gooseshit

the ls/vtec will kill bryce's car

imported_mikepasini

chris_si98

my little project will also kill bryce's car

newman

Although I hate the 22's with a passion, I do enjoy the torque. If your willing to buy the adapter that solves the issue of the garbage tranny.

I just can't justify the cost on doing the swap. The way I see it sure your going to sell your motor to offset the cost of the 22 but you'll still have to pay for the install.

The way I see it is your upgrading from a B to an H, not really worht it. But if you only had a d, than why not.

But I have to ask why not build your current motor or work towards boosting it?

imported_t_dot_SiR

newman really got a strong point there... so much work for just extra 25-30 torque and 20-30 hp!... you can easily boost or build your motor and get those...

although i'm a prelude owner now, but i really hate the gearing of an h22 tranny

i wish there's an adapter plate for a K-series tranny on a h22 motor... i want the 6spd tranny!!!! nice short gearings at first, then a 6th gear for hwy driving, just perfect! but i guess that's only dreaming =)

well, i drive a lude now, so all i want is a k20 (typeR) swap in my lude someday haha...... some guy in the states already did it... it was awesome!

imported_Cablerat

The install I would be doing myself. I've done H22 before.

I haven't really looked into building the motor, but from what I've read, the cost of building vs gains is generally not worth it. As for turbo, I don't think I want to turbo a motor with 200K on it.

I want a stock motor with decent power. I'm sorry but a GSR is gutless. This reving up to 8 and 9000rpm crap to get power is crap. Once I start building a motor or boost it, I open myself up to a ****load of new problems and constant maintenance, which I don't want. The H2B kit is the alternative.

The H2B kit stock motor on LS Tegs are hitting mid to low 13s with slicks. The other issue is trusting a shop to actually build the motor properly. I can pull and put the engine in, but I don't have the time and probably not all the tools to sit there and build it myself.



:EDIT

I just found out the KIT is $850 USD + shipping... <-- That's stupid, so forget it. Maybe if they said $400-500 I would pay!

newman

I thought it was Mikepasini who was doing the swap, not you?

Anyways the kit as you say is $1000 and if you were paying a shop it would be close to that also. So with a budget of nearly 2k you could have a lot of fun with a GSR, I know I would.

Perhaps give your motor a look over becasue something doesnt sound right. GSR's are fun cars to drive and have a decent amount of power, enough that I wouldn't change the motor for, well unless I was doing something crazy.

imported_mikepasini

Well, I have a turbo kit sitting in my room and it is just waiting to go in, but I haven't done it yet and i am trying to figure out if its because I would rather have something all motor or not. I was thinking I could sell my kit (complete) and my motor to cover most of the h22 and install price and hopefully some of the h2b adapter plate cost.

I was just thinking that an h22 would be so much fun with a gsr LSD.

And man, my motor compression test 215,215,210,215 dry and add an extra 5 with a little oil, so the motor is fine... I just think its gutless after using it for a few months... I want some decent pull at 2000rpm, not 4500rpm...

I know I could build it, but for the cost of building it and what I plan on using the motor... I would be worried about blowing it after investing so much into it. Keeping a stock motor and boosting that... its just cheaper to replace a stock motor anyway... and if I get one that lasts a few months boosted then I would just do some forged internals to turn up the boost. and a little more of course...

Boosted H22 EK Hatch with an s80 LSD Tranny anyone?

Bryce

Right of the motor stand right? I hate how everyone things this is a competition. I have a PoorMans Type R. I make the same numbers as a ITR just a little bit more HP.. You have a Heavily Built Ls.

Your motor is faster than mine. Do your ***** feel bigger? lol

And Chris Rebbeca Street IS BULL**** so freaking bumpy