rosenberg84

I have seen alot of threads on here and noticed how everyone on here says that putting a H22 into a civic kills all handling. I find this confusing as putting 17 inch rims on your car puts weight on the outside where it is magnified and a 7 pound increase is the equivalant to roughly a 100 pounds inside the wheels. So how if you add 1.75 pounds to each corner by installing larger rims or even breaks you have now brought your cars weight characteristics to an equivalant of having a h22 swapped in into it also, if the handling on the car goes to **** with the 65 pound increase from a b18 then how do you drive your car with your buddy in the passenger seat who unless is a anorexic midget weighs atleast 150 pounds. Just some food for thought.

CRXlover

firstly the reason why people say the h22 ruins the handling is because adding more weight to an already front heavy car will only increase understeer.
secondly when u add weight to any part of the wheels u are adding to rolling weight, and hence a few pounds onto each wheel and it will feel like u have an extra 100 pounds or so weight

dingus88

get your fat buddy to sit in the engine bay and go to an auto X course...h22 isnt' for auto X or track racing..but for a dail driver with some decent suspension isnt' that bad...I mean msot peopel arent' pro drivers...and most jsut want it to be bad *** in a straight...either way it sits weird in teh engine bay which also adds to the odd handling....

imported_~ILLEST CIV~

that'z probably the best way to look at it......hahaha i've never thought of it like that....LOL

rosenberg84

if your "fat" buddy weighs 65 pounds the weight difference between the two like i said before yall must be anorexic midgets

1niceSi

Read all 8 pages.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=362984

imported_Torrey

When I saw this thread title I was about to say search honda-tech.com.

imported_Cablerat

roger that!!

imported_gatherer

ummm yeah your Rim wieght arguement is all wrong... but because of internet restrictions at work I don't have time to tell you exactly whats wrong with it.

I'll reply from hoem if I have time

rosenberg84

The rim weight theory was introduced to me by one of my fathers friends who desgins cart/irl cars and was offered a job by Minardi racing to design there formula one cars so i believe him. I am interested to hear what you have to say as i am in the process of building a circuit/street car and am tryying to decide on a engine suspension combination, also shifting the battery weight to the rear, and using a carbon fibre hood will almost offset the gained weight. Now what about when you go turbo b18 what about all the weight gained from the turbo, intercooler, intercooler piping, oil cooler, and such. I can understand the size isue but its the weight isue that i dont buy. Not disagreeing with anyone i just wanna get the most information i can get before i commit 10 000 to building a drivetrain and suspension setup.