H two two?
15-Jul-2004, 04:32 PM
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i have driven one before... basically same as cablerat's set up... h22 droped right in a stock 5th gen... basically all i did was straight line stuff and it was intoxicating... so intoxicating that i wouldn't even care about degraded handling really 
the way i look at it... a gsr swap would cost the same... less effort on my part but about the same price to me... and it comes with much less hp and torque... and the power it does have it higher in the rpm range...
the more i think about it less i think the car will be a track car though... to much money in that... plus i have my go kart racing whch is more fun in my eyes... so i think the final goal is a fun car... and i think per dollar an h22 is the most fun i can have in my civic
the way i look at it... a gsr swap would cost the same... less effort on my part but about the same price to me... and it comes with much less hp and torque... and the power it does have it higher in the rpm range...
the more i think about it less i think the car will be a track car though... to much money in that... plus i have my go kart racing whch is more fun in my eyes... so i think the final goal is a fun car... and i think per dollar an h22 is the most fun i can have in my civic
15-Jul-2004, 05:19 PM
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If you are going in a straight line, I would not care about the handeling issues. The only think you will notice under racing situations, track wise, you will have masisve understeer and very unstable breaking.
I would suggest very good tires and suspension before you do the swap. Stock civic brakes, unless you drive an Sir, wont be able to handle that kind of power easily.
I would'nt say an H22 in a civic is intoxicating though.
I would suggest very good tires and suspension before you do the swap. Stock civic brakes, unless you drive an Sir, wont be able to handle that kind of power easily.
I would'nt say an H22 in a civic is intoxicating though.
15-Jul-2004, 07:41 PM
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you know you want one 
oh and another thing.. when you pop the hood, people freak out.. NO WAY that fit in there.. HOYLHSITKLJfdasdl;jaiej;lasdj
imagine that with a turbo..
And whos Jay??
oh and another thing.. when you pop the hood, people freak out.. NO WAY that fit in there.. HOYLHSITKLJfdasdl;jaiej;lasdj
imagine that with a turbo..
Originally posted by JookSingKid
thats ok, not expecting to to see it break any records, just wanna see how it does.
tell Jay about it, he might even pay for your fee! Just let him give it a spin
thats ok, not expecting to to see it break any records, just wanna see how it does.
tell Jay about it, he might even pay for your fee! Just let him give it a spin
16-Jul-2004, 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
jay is gatherer... the crazy guy at solo2 events :hides:
and yes i do know i want it... 3 pays and it'll be mine... unless something drastic happens where i need a large sum of money
jay is gatherer... the crazy guy at solo2 events :hides:
and yes i do know i want it... 3 pays and it'll be mine... unless something drastic happens where i need a large sum of money
HCP! not the best, but does the job well.
16-Jul-2004, 10:08 AM
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Rick, I saw a complete race prepared CRX on the track the other day, it was a drag car setup (from the look of it) and I think it is running a H22 under it. The key word is I think.
Again, a lot of useful info from many people. You gotta own one and to constantly tune it to make the best out of it. I say you go for it and take it to the track with us next time we go to Shannonville, or even next year.
I will be more than happy to help you out on the weekends and supply some booz as refreshment!
Again, a lot of useful info from many people. You gotta own one and to constantly tune it to make the best out of it. I say you go for it and take it to the track with us next time we go to Shannonville, or even next year.
I will be more than happy to help you out on the weekends and supply some booz as refreshment!
16-Jul-2004, 11:32 AM
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honestly i think the hardest thing for me will be finding an engine... an obd1 engine.. in good repair... while i'm savin up i'm thinking of buying an h22 intake manifold and hacking it up to flow some individual throttle bodies... something tells me that one will be more work then i bargained for... but something that shouldn't be to bling bling and could occupy most of my vacation
16-Jul-2004, 11:34 AM
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16-Jul-2004, 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by JookSingKid
you can convert an OBD2 motor to OBD1
good read james.
you can convert an OBD2 motor to OBD1
good read james.
but thats more work... and i dont like work... i like easy things... like cheap hamiltong street hookers
the main thing is that i can't run the p28 chipped on an obd2 engine correct? that makes for headaches
16-Jul-2004, 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by JookSingKid
Khosh, what kind of milege do you get?
the hondatech thread says a few of the guys get 25 MPG which seems pretty crappy, especially with the longer gearing of the H series tranny.
Khosh, what kind of milege do you get?
the hondatech thread says a few of the guys get 25 MPG which seems pretty crappy, especially with the longer gearing of the H series tranny.
The car basically drives itself.. barely needs any throttle for daily driving.. It won't even stall in second gear.. it'll actually starts accelerating.. Easiest car to learn standard on that's for sure..
I'm running a P28 with Custom H22 Fuel/Ignition maps.
16-Jul-2004, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
but thats more work... and i dont like work... i like easy things... like cheap hamiltong street hookers
the main thing is that i can't run the p28 chipped on an obd2 engine correct? that makes for headaches
but thats more work... and i dont like work... i like easy things... like cheap hamiltong street hookers
the main thing is that i can't run the p28 chipped on an obd2 engine correct? that makes for headaches
5th gen hatch, ODB1, the H22 ODB1 motors are built stronger than the ODB2 motors and is easier to throw into your car.
So why look to odb2 at all??
16-Jul-2004, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by PunkInDrublic
well i'm not
just passing the info as to why i'm not... i'd imagine the 96+ engines would be more bountiful and easier to find but wiring isn't my fortay so the easier the better
well i'm not
just passing the info as to why i'm not... i'd imagine the 96+ engines would be more bountiful and easier to find but wiring isn't my fortay so the easier the better
Tiger Japan has solid motors.. harass the guy enough and you get everything you could ever want with your swap and pay cash no tax!
He let me go at a complete front clip for my swap. I took everything I needed including the 1 piece leather shifter.. I just wish the lude didn't have digital guages, I would have loved to know the true mileage of my motor.
22-Jul-2004, 01:03 PM
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JSK and MrX speak on H22A
So I chatted with a buddy of mine who has an H22A to get some feedback. I respect him because he built his car right and he does solo1 events with it.
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JSK says:
hey man, i have a buddy who is interested in doing a 2.2 any quick feedback?
Mr. X says:
hey, umm do it right the first time. no cutting corners, ie cheap parts such as mounts. wiring is really important. prepare to "play" with suspension setup. if they are racing it. and i duno if its just me, but i had to replace all front ball joints within a year, most likely cause i track the car, but still and u gotta cut the body for the shifter cable
JSK says:
any suspension issues?
Mr. X says:
it all depends on what setup ur using, integra rates should be ok,
JSK says:
you're the only person i know with an h22 and a tough suspension. i've only been in one h22 civic and it has stock suspension and it felt like a dog. how does it handle compared to your stock motor?
Mr. X says:
yeah, most people overlook the suspension and complain about understeer. i can feel the weight, its alot over my d series, but the torque is nice, especially in the corners, im not waiting as much as b series cars although u need to play with the suspension to find what really works. honestly though, if i had the $ to do an b18c5 i would have, its just easier, because its more convenient. but i love my h22. driveshafts are a problem for some people
JSK says:
what shafts you using?
Mr. X says:
im using 89 integra driverside, 93 accord midshaft and 93 integra passenger
JSK says:
what mount kit?
Mr. X says:
im used totem, it sucks, but i picked up a set of avid racing mounts, heard nothing but good things, so i'll see how it goes. hasports are great but u need to totally remove the passenger tranny mount
JSK says:
whats the biggest problem you have had with the swap?
Mr. X says:
umm, theree isnt really a major problem, just mainly small ones that are a **** off...such as finding the right combination of driveshafts. wiring "(still need to fix some wiring, and hook up egr)
tuning very important. havent got mined tuned yet, so a/f is probably messed up. plus if u want to do any major work on the motor, ie timming belt, u need to drop the motor, also your friend should keep inmind that the exhaust is different on the preludes, the flange on the header is a differnt pattern and the down pipe is alot longer than a b/d series...so exhaust work needs to be done with the swap
Mr. X says:
its not a drop in and go type thing. i have a friend who did it in an eg, but was discouraged with all the little problems and sold the car, he was too impatient. oh ac/ps can be used, but makes it very tight. and u cant slam the car, because the oilpan hangs low
u can but u risk dinging it badly
JSK says:
what kind of mpg do you get?
Mr. X says:
hard to say, my speedo is messed up works sometimes...but i used to get aroun 350-400 per tank
JSK says:
what ecu you running?
Mr X says:
jdm p13 chipped
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JSK says:
hey man, i have a buddy who is interested in doing a 2.2 any quick feedback?
Mr. X says:
hey, umm do it right the first time. no cutting corners, ie cheap parts such as mounts. wiring is really important. prepare to "play" with suspension setup. if they are racing it. and i duno if its just me, but i had to replace all front ball joints within a year, most likely cause i track the car, but still and u gotta cut the body for the shifter cable
JSK says:
any suspension issues?
Mr. X says:
it all depends on what setup ur using, integra rates should be ok,
JSK says:
you're the only person i know with an h22 and a tough suspension. i've only been in one h22 civic and it has stock suspension and it felt like a dog. how does it handle compared to your stock motor?
Mr. X says:
yeah, most people overlook the suspension and complain about understeer. i can feel the weight, its alot over my d series, but the torque is nice, especially in the corners, im not waiting as much as b series cars although u need to play with the suspension to find what really works. honestly though, if i had the $ to do an b18c5 i would have, its just easier, because its more convenient. but i love my h22. driveshafts are a problem for some people
JSK says:
what shafts you using?
Mr. X says:
im using 89 integra driverside, 93 accord midshaft and 93 integra passenger
JSK says:
what mount kit?
Mr. X says:
im used totem, it sucks, but i picked up a set of avid racing mounts, heard nothing but good things, so i'll see how it goes. hasports are great but u need to totally remove the passenger tranny mount
JSK says:
whats the biggest problem you have had with the swap?
Mr. X says:
umm, theree isnt really a major problem, just mainly small ones that are a **** off...such as finding the right combination of driveshafts. wiring "(still need to fix some wiring, and hook up egr)
tuning very important. havent got mined tuned yet, so a/f is probably messed up. plus if u want to do any major work on the motor, ie timming belt, u need to drop the motor, also your friend should keep inmind that the exhaust is different on the preludes, the flange on the header is a differnt pattern and the down pipe is alot longer than a b/d series...so exhaust work needs to be done with the swap
Mr. X says:
its not a drop in and go type thing. i have a friend who did it in an eg, but was discouraged with all the little problems and sold the car, he was too impatient. oh ac/ps can be used, but makes it very tight. and u cant slam the car, because the oilpan hangs low
u can but u risk dinging it badly
JSK says:
what kind of mpg do you get?
Mr. X says:
hard to say, my speedo is messed up works sometimes...but i used to get aroun 350-400 per tank
JSK says:
what ecu you running?
Mr X says:
jdm p13 chipped
