GSR vs. ITR
26-Jul-2005, 01:00 PM
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GSR vs. ITR
Hey guys
talking to a guy that owns a Civic with a Type-R and he heard from some guy that only works on ITRs that the problem with the ITR is that they are a "blueprint" engine, says to upgrade them messes everything up. Like putting a cam in requires upgraded valve springs and so on (any internals require major $$$). Also says that GSR and the rest of the B18's are upgradeable piece by piece.
Anyone know anything about this??
Mike
talking to a guy that owns a Civic with a Type-R and he heard from some guy that only works on ITRs that the problem with the ITR is that they are a "blueprint" engine, says to upgrade them messes everything up. Like putting a cam in requires upgraded valve springs and so on (any internals require major $$$). Also says that GSR and the rest of the B18's are upgradeable piece by piece.
Anyone know anything about this??
Mike
26-Jul-2005, 01:20 PM
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sounds like your friend read a bad thread on Honda Tech and is giving you some sour information...or is trying to keep you from buying an ITR engine
when you put anything on an engine it "throws" things off...its called tuning
sounds like your friend read a bad thread on Honda Tech and is giving you some sour information...or is trying to keep you from buying an ITR engine
when you put anything on an engine it "throws" things off...its called tuning
26-Jul-2005, 01:49 PM
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If I were to put a cam into an engine. I would at least go with a Stage 2 for the extra little $$. It's not that hard to replace valve springs, etc.
Also your friend that only works on ITR might have too much of an EGO for the all mightly B18C5. :P
Also your friend that only works on ITR might have too much of an EGO for the all mightly B18C5. :P
26-Jul-2005, 04:35 PM
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Awesome guys, the guy that only works on the ITR is not my friend, don't even know the guy (by what you guys are saying, maybe I don't want to know him). A guy at a stand at DKN7 said he could sell a B18C5 for 4500 with everything needed, is there any cheaper prices to get one, or is it less expensive to get a GS-R and work with it.
Seems like everyone had a GS-R for a swap at Darknights, plus the Integra Type-R with that 9700 RPM redline just seems like it would be a lot of fun.
Mike
Sorry guys if I seem like a newbie to this
Seems like everyone had a GS-R for a swap at Darknights, plus the Integra Type-R with that 9700 RPM redline just seems like it would be a lot of fun.
Mike
Sorry guys if I seem like a newbie to this
26-Jul-2005, 05:23 PM
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ITR at 9700 rpm??? I think not. You would get some serious valve float and would be looking at a blown engine with 0 compression. Highest stock Honda redline is 9000 rpm on the S2000.
26-Jul-2005, 05:26 PM
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I think many people fail to inderstand the forces at work when something is spinning at even 6000 rpm.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
26-Jul-2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
I think many people fail to inderstand the forces at work when something is spinning at even 6000 rpm.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
I think many people fail to inderstand the forces at work when something is spinning at even 6000 rpm.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
hahaha he` got a point
but if you can afford a itr motor go for it not just for the great performance and indurance it has But for just fact that its a type r yo
26-Jul-2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
ITR at 9700 rpm??? I think not. You would get some serious valve float and would be looking at a blown engine with 0 compression. Highest stock Honda redline is 9000 rpm on the S2000.
ITR at 9700 rpm??? I think not. You would get some serious valve float and would be looking at a blown engine with 0 compression. Highest stock Honda redline is 9000 rpm on the S2000.
27-Jul-2005, 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
I think many people fail to inderstand the forces at work when something is spinning at even 6000 rpm.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
I think many people fail to inderstand the forces at work when something is spinning at even 6000 rpm.
Just think to yourself.
by the time you say "eleven", the crank has turned SIX THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!! you try counting to six thousand it'll prolly take you the better part of an hour and a half.
i would take a gsr over a type r just ecause of the combustion chamber design and i know that i would be hopping it up so that is an important thing for me.
