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catalyst 13-Jul-2005 10:24 PM

The fine line between performance and effeciency
 
So I've got a 98 Civic 1.6L SOHC. Its totally stock and I feel like making some changes but am primarly concerned with fuel costs. I also wouldn't want to do something that upon any type of inspection is deemed not str33tlegal.

How much difference in fuel consumtion would things like a new exaust and a new air intake make?

What I really want is the cheeziest civic out there. I want to make my stock exhaust look like a duel exhaust. One side would be working and the other would shoot out cooked rice! That would be bomb guy yo.

imported_G2 Speed 13-Jul-2005 11:09 PM

air intake and exaust shouldn't make that much of a difference and isn't street legal, unless it won't pass emissions or your exaust is to loud....

for the last part.... your messed up

bbarbulo 13-Jul-2005 11:17 PM

a nicely tuned stock engine is the most fuel efficient and reliable. I wouldn't touch a thing.

Younes Si 13-Jul-2005 11:32 PM


Originally posted by g2speed
air intake and exaust shouldn't make that much of a difference and isn't street legal, unless it won't pass emissions or your exaust is to loud....

for the last part.... your messed up

exaust too loud? nah man, i just passed safty and E-Test with flying colours last week and having a loud exhaust has siht all to do with anything...you can hear me coming from like 2 blocks away and that's with the resanator on...when i frist got my 2.5inch catbac.. hahah funny just to think about it with the resantor, i would be in 4th gear and you would think it's in 2nd because it was soo loud :haha:

nice day :marchmell

imported_G2 Speed 13-Jul-2005 11:43 PM

i'm just saying for the fact of getting a ticket...

catalyst 14-Jul-2005 12:00 AM

No, for exhaust yes I'd want headers, and a high flo cat but a quiet muffler (high flo too?) for me.

No loud exhaust on this Honda please.

imported_G2 Speed 14-Jul-2005 12:11 AM

don't waste your money on headers... and a high flow cat... your not putting more air into your car so you don't need to get rid of that extra "air"..

just keep it stock like bbarbulo said

DumbasSi 14-Jul-2005 12:11 AM


Originally posted by catalyst
No loud exhaust on this Honda please.
Just one that shoots rice.

imported_G2 Speed 14-Jul-2005 12:15 AM

fewww... i thought i was the only one that saw that....

imported_kIeRaN 14-Jul-2005 12:43 AM

what the... rice shooting exhaust? that would be pimp

Younes Si 14-Jul-2005 12:47 AM

just imagine if you had duel exhaust :eek:

LEITNER 14-Jul-2005 12:45 PM

ok post something when you are serious. rice shooting out the exhaust, is that like blowing smoke out your as*? cause thats all you are doing in this thread

Double_B 14-Jul-2005 12:54 PM


Originally posted by Steve_Leitner
ok post something when you are serious. rice shooting out the exhaust, is that like blowing smoke out your as*? cause thats all you are doing in this thread

:nods:

Nova_Dust 14-Jul-2005 02:35 PM

To answer your question, no, fuel efficiency is more or less the same.

catalyst 14-Jul-2005 04:33 PM


Originally posted by Steve_Leitner
ok post something when you are serious. rice shooting out the exhaust, is that like blowing smoke out your as*? cause thats all you are doing in this thread
Lighten up champ! It was a joke.

imported_G2 Speed 14-Jul-2005 05:52 PM

ha ha :confused:

LEITNER 14-Jul-2005 08:22 PM

champ? lighten up? im not joking.

stock94block 14-Jul-2005 08:29 PM

Re: The fine line between performance and effeciency
 

Originally posted by catalyst
So I've got a 98 Civic 1.6L SOHC. Its totally stock and I feel like making some changes but am primarly concerned with fuel costs. I also wouldn't want to do something that upon any type of inspection is deemed not str33tlegal.

How much difference in fuel consumtion would things like a new exaust and a new air intake make?

What I really want is the cheeziest civic out there. I want to make my stock exhaust look like a duel exhaust. One side would be working and the other would shoot out cooked rice! That would be bomb guy yo.


what are you kidding about that last part? :confused:

your gas mileage will barely change, and if you're like most people getting an exhaust is really just a fancy word for "im buying a muffler"..in which case its just going to make your car loud and annoying ...perfect mix for getting a ticket.

catalyst 14-Jul-2005 09:31 PM

You people are f@%*ed.

I had heard good things about this board but it seems like maybe theres a bit too much ego here.

Ok so far I've learned Steve_Leitner has no sense of humour and takes things a bit serious and stock94block can't read.

stock94block - as I already stated I'm thinking of getting a new exhaust - from the header right back - and I also said I don't want a loud muffler. Maybe I should have used some cute emoticons in my post but I didn't see any smiley faces reading the full thread before commenting.

I love my car but I want more performance from it. Not knowing much about this I'd assume an intake and exhaust would be a good start, but wouldn't want to do anything that I'll notice at the pumps.

stock94block 14-Jul-2005 10:01 PM


Originally posted by catalyst
You people are f@%*ed.

I had heard good things about this board but it seems like maybe theres a bit too much ego here.


stock94block - as I already stated I'm thinking of getting a new exhaust - from the header right back - and I also said I don't want a loud muffler. Maybe I should have used some cute emoticons in my post but I didn't see any smiley faces reading the full thread before commenting.

i can read just fine my friend, but when you say you want to turn your car into a joke and add a dual exhaust that shoots rice, im trying to figure out if we're dealing with a 12 year old or not; which ends up in me not even bothering to read this whole thread and give you a straight up answer.

and my answer is still the same, your gas mileage will barely be affected ..I dont know how cute emotions will make your post sound anymore serious but heres a couple i've picked out for you :tsk: :crazy:

catalyst 14-Jul-2005 10:24 PM


Originally posted by stock94block


i can read just fine my friend, but when you say you want to turn your car into a joke and add a dual exhaust that shoots rice, im trying to figure out if we're dealing with a 12 year old or not; which ends up in me not even bothering to read this whole thread and give you a straight up answer.

and my answer is still the same, your gas mileage will barely be affected ..I dont know how cute emotions will make your post sound anymore serious but heres a couple i've picked out for you :tsk: :crazy:

Actually, when someone says THEY WANT TO SHOOT RICE OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR CAR most would take it as a joke.

I appreciate you answering the question, that's why I'm here, sorry for trying to have a sense of humour. You can resume your frowning now.

LEITNER 15-Jul-2005 09:33 AM

i have no sense of humour? you really have no clue, we just get sick of stupid questions all the time. we all work and try the best we can to help out people and thier civics but if you ask stupid questions you get stupid answers. im still giggling at the fact i have no sense of humour. anyone?

for real, if gas is a concern leave it stock, you can sink a ton of cash into that car and it wont feel much faster and your gas milage will decrease. those engines dont make alot of power, even built ones. i speak from experience.

now,try getting to know us on the board then when you post stupid sh*t its just funny cause we know you. good luck with your endevour.

Nova_Dust 15-Jul-2005 11:18 AM

Steve with no humour? Last time I saw him, he couldnt' stop laughing for the entire length of time. I thought he was on laughing pill.

catalyst 15-Jul-2005 08:41 PM


Originally posted by Steve_Leitner

for real, if gas is a concern leave it stock, you can sink a ton of cash into that car and it wont feel much faster and your gas milage will decrease. those engines dont make alot of power, even built ones. i speak from experience.


thanks for answering my question. I would be able to live with maybe a 10 to15 % extra fuel cost but if it's really not worthwhile oh well.

I just love the car so much and enjoy working on it. And like how a lot of the bolt on stuff looks, like an intake. I guess I'll just continue to be Mr - more - than - regular - maintenance - man.

imported_My93Civic 15-Jul-2005 10:17 PM


Originally posted by catalyst


thanks for answering my question. I would be able to live with maybe a 10 to15 % extra fuel cost but if it's really not worthwhile oh well.

I just love the car so much and enjoy working on it. And like how a lot of the bolt on stuff looks, like an intake. I guess I'll just continue to be Mr - more - than - regular - maintenance - man.

I don't know why you are asking because it seems like you already know what you want, and how you want it, so I will just say go for it.

You won't lose much or any gas because your ECU is still throwing out the same fuel regulations.

To this thread as a whole: :p

catalyst 16-Jul-2005 11:13 AM

Yeah really. If I had more garage space I'd just buy another and have one for driving and one for playing with / show.


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