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Old 15-Oct-2002, 09:14 PM
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engine question

another member of the club was enlightening me on the benefits of a b20 (non vtec) over a b16/b18. he was saying a b20 offers more torque and the same amount of horsepower at the same price or even less.

if you had the choice of a b20 or a b16/b18 which would you choose. this excludes a b18c5 because it cost too much.
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Old 15-Oct-2002, 10:37 PM
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After reading info about this same question I would have t osay the b29 would be my second choice. (behind an h22)
 
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heheh a b29

I'd choose a B20 over a H22 for the reason that, B20 are somewhat easier to swap in, and from a B20, you can go nuts on b20vtec, or turbo that sucka and shred up some competition
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It really depends on what you want to do with the car. Will you be modding it more in the future? What kinda budget are you working on? We need more info.
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anyone knows where to get a B20/Vtec engine?? If so, how much?

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You will need to have one built by a shop.

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anyone knows where to get a B20/Vtec engine?? If so, how much?

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Old 16-Oct-2002, 02:48 PM
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B20

If you have plans of turbo, then I would stay away form the B20, it has thin piston walls and cant take that much boost. B20 would be great for all motor and put a VTEC head on it. B18 would be the best for turbo, price is not to bad on those either. I still havn't decided what engine to put in mine yet, but there will be some sort of bests under the hood come spring time!

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spring time is the best for engine swap??

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Originally posted by sir168
spring time is the best for engine swap??

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Anytime is the best time...

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Re: B20

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If you have plans of turbo, then I would stay away form the B20, it has thin piston walls and cant take that much boost.
By piston walls do you mean the stock cylinder sleeves? If so the B20 has by far the thickest of any B-series Honda motor. Awesome for boost.
 
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anyone has put VTEC on B20??

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anyone has put VTEC on B20??

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Originally posted by ShaneR21
If you have plans of turbo, then I would stay away form the B20, it has thin piston walls and cant take that much boost.
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By piston walls do you mean the stock cylinder sleeves? If so the B20 has by far the thickest of any B-series Honda motor. Awesome for boost.

Thanks for the correction, it must of been the H engines I read about.
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No, the B20 sleeves are week if you don't have the block resleeved.

http://www.b20vtec.com/b20sleeves.html
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Originally posted by SW20 MR2
No, the B20 sleeves are week if you don't have the block resleeved.

http://www.b20vtec.com/b20sleeves.html

My favourite quote form that article....

"If you dont believe they crack,your on crack"

LOL

Nice resource...

www.crvtec.com was good too but I can't seem to find it anymore...

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I never said they were strong, i said they were thick, which allows for more surface area to be bored out ... bigger bore = higher displacement whis is good for boost. Resleeving is expensive, for most b20 applications a main bearing girdle and/or block guard, with ARP main studs and a balanced/blueprinted bottom should be enough. You can only expect so much from stock sleeves but the b20's arnet't as bad as that article suggests... notice how he doens't make any concrette points as to why they're weak.. only because he's seen several cracked... well you run enough boost/nitrous on any sleeves and they will crack eventually.
 
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what is frankenstein engine??
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Basically any motor with a non-VTEC block and VTEC head is considered a Frankenstein motor.

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what is frankenstein engine??
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I'm staying away from L&B now. I dunno if it's a few isolated cases, but I've been hearing too many stories of people having problems with their work. When the time comes, I'll be sending my block to Golden Eagle and my head to Portflow.

Originally posted by b16civic


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how much is it to put on a VTEC head on B18B engine and how much faster?

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