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Old 16-Jun-2007, 04:45 PM
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Engine Mount Problem

I did my timing belt and water pump today. I have a 96 civic dx.

The lower mount which bolts to the underneath of the frame on the timing belt side, other side bolts to the block on top of the oil pan. One of the bolts is just spinning. I guess the welds to the bolt inside the frame broke so now it just spins.

The one way to fix this is to cut open a small hole in the frame and this is something I don't want to do since the car is in pretty mint condition otherwise.

I am planning to go b-series soon, was wondering if the b-series also has a mount in that same spot (D/S Lower)?


Pic of the mount I am talking about.
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Old 16-Jun-2007, 04:56 PM
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its just spinning? are you taking it out or putting it back in?

Yes the b-series mounts bolt up to the exact same place.. and why are you taking that mount off anyways? the only reason you should take the mount off is to REMOVE the a/c belt and put a new one in. Does it tighten back up? i would just put some force on it (ie pry it down) and try to turn it, you may catch some good threads and itll thread out. Then re-tap the bolt hole with the proper tap.
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Old 17-Jun-2007, 12:13 PM
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It started spinning when I was taking it out. I'll try to pry on it and see what happens. If i do pry on it and take it out, wouldn't I be screwed since the nut that holds it down would be inside the frame somewhere?
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Old 17-Jun-2007, 12:30 PM
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what nut? the threads are threaded internally into the frame..
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Old 17-Jun-2007, 12:42 PM
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Oh ok, that saves me alot of grief.

I assumed there was a welded nut on the inside of the frame.
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why do you have that mount off............
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Old 17-Jun-2007, 10:45 PM
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I loosened it to lower the engine when I was doing the timing belt.
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why would you want to lower the engine?

Man.. next time you do a semi-big job like a timing belt, get a manual.
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Old 21-Jun-2007, 04:26 PM
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yo everyone needs to learn how to do things. People aren't perfect and do make mistakes. You did it, I did it, everyone who has worked on a car made those errors. Manuals are not full prove anyways.
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Originally posted by KAMUFI
yo everyone needs to learn how to do things. People aren't perfect and do make mistakes. You did it, I did it, everyone who has worked on a car made those errors. Manuals are not full prove anyways.
what the hell are you talking about.

The car is lowering the motor for no reason what so ever. I have never done that, nor do i know anybody who would even attempt that. I cant even think of a reason why he would think he has to lower the motor to do the timing belt.

I believe everyon needs to learn things but doing it, but there is no reason why he couldnt of asked for help before he messed it up.
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Old 21-Jun-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by chris_v2
what nut? the threads are threaded internally into the frame..
Hey, I was right. There is a nut that is welded to the frame. It might seems like the threads are internally in the frame but that is not the case. The frame is not even that thick.

What I have to do is drill a hole from the top which is big enough for an extension and socket to get in and then free that nut up.
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well the nut must be welded in place then..

i would just re-tap it..
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Originally posted by chris_v2
well the nut must be welded in place then..

i would just re-tap it..
Even if I did, the frame alone is not thick enough.
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the frame is not thick enough to what?
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To hold the mount. It's the actual nuts that hold the mount up once tightened.
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that nut is welded to the frame...so I dunno what you're gonna do with a socket and extension...ur gonna either have to retap that nut thats in there or break that one off and weld a new one on
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^Thanks mat.

thats what im trying to tell him.. just re-tap the nut.
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Old 22-Jun-2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Cynikal.Mindset
that nut is welded to the frame...so I dunno what you're gonna do with a socket and extension...ur gonna either have to retap that nut thats in there or break that one off and weld a new one on
Well the welds broke off so the nut is seized onto the bolt. When you try to loosen the bolt, the nut and bolt both spin.

I was planning to drill a hole from the top so I can get ratchet with an extension on the nut to hold it and then loosen the bolt.
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are u sure thats what happened, or are the threads on the bolt buggered and there is a bald spot and they wont catch? I would still try and pry it and turn it at the same time before cutting any holes anywhere cuz more than likely the bolt threads are buggered and now it wont thread without some convincing
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Originally posted by Cynikal.Mindset
are u sure thats what happened, or are the threads on the bolt buggered and there is a bald spot and they wont catch? I would still try and pry it and turn it at the same time before cutting any holes anywhere cuz more than likely the bolt threads are buggered and now it wont thread without some convincing
I am pretty sure that's what happened. I tried applying pressure useing a prybar, that didn't work.

The bolt is loose but it's not going anywhere because the nut has seized on to it. I'll take a pic this weekend.
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