Honda Civic Performance - JDM Discussion Engine tech, forced induction, springs, shocks, brakes, tires, etc.

Engine help!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 26-Jul-2002, 02:08 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_1sicsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,778
Engine help!

Any help /opinions is grealy appreciated. Im doing a swap ASAP, as for my moter is buring severe amounts of oil out the exhaust and leaving black oil all over my bumper... high km, and way too slow. I need your opinions on which moter I shoud consider. 4Gs is the budjet. .......... Im not racing just looking for some pleasureable power..... Any one that has SIR moter list what you like/dislike about your moter. Anyone with GSR likes/dislike. LS moter..... SI moter....ugh !!what should i go with.....???
imported_1sicsol is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 04:23 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
jdm-R k20. you'll love it. slightly over 4g though




195hp to the wheels. no joke!
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 04:42 AM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_1sicsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,778
What is that moter out of? 195 to the wheels...hmmmm
imported_1sicsol is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 07:20 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
90EFHB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: slingin' blow on the corner
Posts: 2,027
what year of civic do you own.....it helps sometimes determine which is the better swap.
90EFHB is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 01:09 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
imported_1sicsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,778
93 del sol. I was think it might be best to go with b16a cause they came with them, and it would go right in.
imported_1sicsol is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 01:11 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
EL_Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 1,562
Originally posted by 1sicsol
What is that moter out of? 195 to the wheels...hmmmm
Acura RSX.
EL_Sport is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 02:54 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
Originally posted by EL_Sport


Acura RSX.
JDM 2002 integra R (rsx-R)
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 26-Jul-2002, 10:34 PM
  #8  
Jugglez
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Get a B18B. You'll like the torque.
 
Old 26-Jul-2002, 10:45 PM
  #9  
banned
 
KS-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Under the hood
Posts: 467
Originally posted by Jugglez
Get a B18B. You'll like the torque.
I'll have to agree to with Jugglez.. Of all the swaps I've done... B16 just don't cut it. Especially for a DelSol.. Reason is the DelSol is actually quite heavy, so the extra torque from the B18B will be good.

For sure you'll be able to drop in a B18B for $4000 (Should be around $3000-$3500) but not sure about B16.. It might run you a little over $4000.

If not.. maybe a B20 would be an even better choice.

Have fun,

Ken
KS-R is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 02:02 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
okay i understand the k20 swap is no where close to being affordable, so my suggestion is the high revving B16.
PLUS you get vtech!

too much work to get a b18b to rev reliably to 8g+. oh then there's vtech... IT HAS NONE! what are you gonna do now?? and torque? whats that? it's a honduh!

and you can forget about a b20. isnt that out of the old skool preludes? yah those are reliable

b16 all the way baby!

civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 05:29 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
redfox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: London & T.O.
Posts: 240
Originally posted by civic_hb96
okay i understand the k20 swap is no where close to being affordable, so my suggestion is the high revving B16.
PLUS you get vtech!

too much work to get a b18b to rev reliably to 8g+. oh then there's vtech... IT HAS NONE! what are you gonna do now?? and torque? whats that? it's a honduh!

and you can forget about a b20. isnt that out of the old skool preludes? yah those are reliable

b16 all the way baby!

b20 is out of CRVs, recent Preludes had h22/h23s.

For street/city driving the b18b is much more friendly than the high revving b16. Yes you can get a **** load of power out of them but if you don't plan to do much, then get the b18b, will make you the king off the line. VTEC is over rated, peaky hp, low torque.

PS: Why would you want to rev a b18b past 8g?
redfox is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 06:32 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
Originally posted by redfox


b20 is out of CRVs, recent Preludes had h22/h23s.

For street/city driving the b18b is much more friendly than the high revving b16. Yes you can get a **** load of power out of them but if you don't plan to do much, then get the b18b, will make you the king off the line. VTEC is over rated, peaky hp, low torque.

PS: Why would you want to rev a b18b past 8g?
b20's are out of 88-91 preludes. and why would anyone want to put a truck motor in a car? like thats gonna fit. also it's not like you can use 4wd in a civic, let alone a del sol

b18b's friendly?? why would you want a friendly motor? you said it yourself. the power is in the b16. which is basically a factory race motor w/vtec. best r/s ratio out of any b-series.
vtech 0wnZ. why do you think everyone is swapping b16's into civics? over rated? i think not. high revs win the $0.25.

Why would you want to rev a b18b past 8g?
you cant, unless you like rods going out the bottom of blocks.

am i being ignorant? maybe

do i like b16's? YES
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 06:53 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
imported_94EG6HB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: 43° 41' N 79° 38' W
Posts: 9,277
Originally posted by civic_hb96
jdm-R k20. you'll love it. slightly over 4g though




195hp to the wheels. no joke!
Just wondering...

Who installed that...

Looks a bit complicated....
imported_94EG6HB is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:01 PM
  #14  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
area51 in the states. swap costs about 15g us

here's the thread on honda-tech http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=236020

if you skim through, you'll see the link to the dyno vids.
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:03 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
imported_94EG6HB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: 43° 41' N 79° 38' W
Posts: 9,277
This isn't in your car is it???

what did they do about the OBD3????
imported_94EG6HB is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:18 PM
  #16  
Guest
 
Import Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: HOCKEY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD
Posts: 1,075
Originally posted by civic_hb96


b20's are out of 88-91 preludes. and why would anyone want to put a truck motor in a car? like thats gonna fit. also it's not like you can use 4wd in a civic, let alone a del sol

you're right, but they are different fromt the B20's out of a CRV. Can't remember the exact differences.
Why would someone put a B20 in their car? Because of the torque. And yes, it will fit.
Import Racer is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:22 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
oh geez, i wish it was in my car.
something to think about in the future

from waht i read in the thread, it wasnt hard to wire it up. they just used the harness from the k20 and plugged it in the ecu, but i'm sure it wasnt that simple. dont think they want to let out all there secrets that make this swap work just yet. i'm assuming it's like converting obd1-obd2, and vice versa. makes sense.
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:34 PM
  #18  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
Originally posted by Import Racer


you're right, but they are different fromt the B20's out of a CRV. Can't remember the exact differences.
Why would someone put a B20 in their car? Because of the torque. And yes, it will fit.
i dont believe
civic_hb96 is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:36 PM
  #19  
Guest
 
Import Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: HOCKEY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD
Posts: 1,075
Originally posted by civic_hb96


i dont believe
What don't you beleive?
Import Racer is offline  
Old 27-Jul-2002, 07:48 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
civic_hb96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
dont believe it will fit without some sort of modifications.

but i could be wrong.
civic_hb96 is offline  


Quick Reply: Engine help!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:57 AM.