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Old 30-Sep-2003, 01:39 PM
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Smile Energy suspension shifter bushing?

I did a search and found a number of thread where guys talked about how much it helps their shifting feel. I saw these bushings at Speedtech this past weekend and wonder if they're really any good. In particular, what bothers me from my car is I could feel my shifter (after-market short shifter) vibrating during idle and when the car is being driven. It ruins the overall feel of smoothness from my car. So could somebody please tell me if those bushings would help dampen the vibration of the shifter? Would the shifter be tighter too? My short shifter is already quite tight compared to a stock shifter (granted), so I don't want the new bushing to make it even tighter.

Lastly, how much do people charge to have them installed?

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it gives it a more direct relationship to the tranny... that's shifter feel.

It will not stop the vibration that you have... depending on how bad it is, it's pretty normal for any rod-linkage system to vibrate. Only cable operated shifters don't have this vibration as much.

That being said, it's worth the money... I guess loudsubz may be willing to install it relatively cheaply if he feels so inclined.
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So does it make my shifter tighter?
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Old 30-Sep-2003, 02:58 PM
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it'll take up any slop that your old worn bushings are giving you..
 
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In terms of tighter, I was referring to the effort that it takes to shift. From some of the previous threads, I understand that it would get rid of the "looseness" or slack, but does the bushing make it harder to shift in terms of the effort that you have to put in?

You guys have any idea how much people would charge to install them?
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if they're installed correctly they shouldn't make it any harder to shift, just tighten up any play that exists between the shifter and shift rod etc..

dunno, if it was me doing it (say 3 bushings..both rod ends and shifter itself, plus supplying one of my custom made, graphite enhanced greases ) probably $75-$100

others, you'd have to call around i guess..
 
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
it gives it a more direct relationship to the tranny... that's shifter feel.

It will not stop the vibration that you have... depending on how bad it is, it's pretty normal for any rod-linkage system to vibrate. Only cable operated shifters don't have this vibration as much.

That being said, it's worth the money... I guess loudsubz may be willing to install it relatively cheaply if he feels so inclined.
me need food to work in the cold hehe

On a second note B, you know those 2 nuts you take out from the shift linkage to drop down the cup that surrounds the ball of the shifter? Just wondering if theres a special way to get the nuts off, on mine the head of the nut started to spin inside the car when I was taking off the 2 nuts on either side.

Was that normal or are they supposed to stay seated?

either way i got them off when I did it but I ended up using vice grips on top to lock it in place.
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theyre supposed to stay..the weld has broken... ive done two shrt shifter installs and both times they broke
i took the tops off with a girnder then had new bolts welded on
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I've never had those things spin, so I never looked at it... dunno loudsubz but generally speaking no car manufacturer would leave things loose cuz it makes it tough for the assembly line guys to get it all together, that being said, I would think they are supposed to stay.
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I put in a short shifter and energy suspension's shift stabilizer a few months ago.

There's no more play in the shifter when you put the car in gear. It's also easier to find gears because the shifter doesn't float around as much.

And lastly, I use vice grips to hold the head of those bolt on the ring that houses the shifter pivot. It didn't look like welds were broken, but the bolt had a square inset that looked worn and a bit corroded.

Which reminds me, I think those bolts are loose now, because I've developed a weird clicking noise when I shift.... argh.

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Your exhaust may be vibrating because it's touching the exhaust. Just replace the rubber hanger with a longer one, and it will lower the exhaust slightly.

My shifter felt really tight when I first installed it, but I just loosened the bolt where the shifter bolts to the linkage, now it's fine.

I think the easiest way to install everything correctly, is to drop the exhaust , and take the entire shifter assembly out. The bolts everyone is mentioning can be held easily in place with a 12mm wrench. It's alot more work, but worth it I think.
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Energy suspension shifter bushing

i bought one at Performance improvements $28 tax in

but still gotta install it
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how much of an improvement will the bushing do if i dont have a short shifter?
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Originally posted by |MuGeN|
how much of an improvement will the bushing do if i dont have a short shifter?
it will help no matter if u have a short shifter or not
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send a pm to ryanhook, he just installed his ES bushing on his shifter.

he'll probably tell you two things:
1. install your OEM shifter
2. buy/install an ES bushing

he's only told me good things about his bushing since he's installed it.
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so $28 huh. that would probably be less here in the states! sounds like a hell of a bargain. ill look into gettin one.
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Ive seen the kits for like $20 or less
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Originally posted by loudsubz
Ive seen the kits for like $20 or less
Where?
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Originally posted by JookSingKid


Where?
Not sure if its still that price or not but when I was in max motorsports in the summer they had a pack for $20, donno if it was on clearance or reg price.
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Mine cost $18. Thanks to DumbasSi
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