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EJ1 Stock Engine to B16 Engone Swap?
#1
EJ1 Stock Engine to B16 Engone Swap?
Hey guys I was wondering about getting an engine swap, I have a friend who has a B16 and has offered it to me for $600 and for intall about another $500, now as most of you know when ever I do something major to my car like this I wanna find all I can about it.
My car 95 Civic Si Coupe - automatic, stock
my questions are
1) what is the regular cost of B16 engines?
2) any downsides to these used engines?
3) any downsides to the actual car?
4) what will be gas increase and power increase like will i feel more torque and and easier pickup when pressing down on the gas(160hp??)
5) your feedback on positives
6) your feedback on negatives
7) and have any of you out there done it?
8) How is this going to affect insurance, do I notify them or not?
9) differences between all the different b16 models, hp, torque cost?
I really appreciate your feeback, and whenever I have questions you guys always help me out thanks in advance!
My car 95 Civic Si Coupe - automatic, stock
my questions are
1) what is the regular cost of B16 engines?
2) any downsides to these used engines?
3) any downsides to the actual car?
4) what will be gas increase and power increase like will i feel more torque and and easier pickup when pressing down on the gas(160hp??)
5) your feedback on positives
6) your feedback on negatives
7) and have any of you out there done it?
8) How is this going to affect insurance, do I notify them or not?
9) differences between all the different b16 models, hp, torque cost?
I really appreciate your feeback, and whenever I have questions you guys always help me out thanks in advance!
#3
DON'T TELL INSURANCE.
has he offerd you a COMPLETE b16? (mounts, harness, axles, tranny, engine)
cause if he didn't give you that, you have got to spend more money. aaaand... don't pay him to do it. pay me. i'll do it for cheaper.
are you changing to stick? or keeping the auto?
b16s are usually closer to 2000 in price. models don't vary that much between a1,2 b16b is ctr, but you won't be getting that for 600.
has he offerd you a COMPLETE b16? (mounts, harness, axles, tranny, engine)
cause if he didn't give you that, you have got to spend more money. aaaand... don't pay him to do it. pay me. i'll do it for cheaper.
are you changing to stick? or keeping the auto?
b16s are usually closer to 2000 in price. models don't vary that much between a1,2 b16b is ctr, but you won't be getting that for 600.
#4
the 600 is prolly just the engine, you are looking at another 1000 for the transmission. on top of that if you are gonna do an auto to manual conversion, the install would be approx 800 - 900.
#6
if the motor is not complete, don't bother...
you will have to gather parts like axles, mounts, ecu, hareness (depending on which gen is the motor), and if you wanna keep auto, you probably need a b-series auto tranny...
not worth it in my opinion...
drive your motor till it dies, then do a full swap at once
you will have to gather parts like axles, mounts, ecu, hareness (depending on which gen is the motor), and if you wanna keep auto, you probably need a b-series auto tranny...
not worth it in my opinion...
drive your motor till it dies, then do a full swap at once
#7
Originally posted by t_dot_SiR
if the motor is not complete, don't bother...
you will have to gather parts like axles, mounts, ecu, hareness (depending on which gen is the motor), and if you wanna keep auto, you probably need a b-series auto tranny...
not worth it in my opinion...
drive your motor till it dies, then do a full swap at once
if the motor is not complete, don't bother...
you will have to gather parts like axles, mounts, ecu, hareness (depending on which gen is the motor), and if you wanna keep auto, you probably need a b-series auto tranny...
not worth it in my opinion...
drive your motor till it dies, then do a full swap at once
#12
You're going to need a B18B1 Auto Tranny or a JDM SiR-G auto tranny (JDM Automatic GSR)
Even with that, you'll need an ECU to go along with the auto tranny that supports VTEC. Not sure if you can mod a B18B Auto ECU into working.
Even with that, you'll need an ECU to go along with the auto tranny that supports VTEC. Not sure if you can mod a B18B Auto ECU into working.
#13
Ans 8: i asked the same question to my insurance (state farm) agency before. as long as the engine is from the same auto maker, u'll be fine. But they don't consider Acura is Honda, so keep in mind. That means B18 into civic is NOT valid for insurance policy.
#14
1) what is the regular cost of B16 engines? regular cost for b16 sirII complete would be somewhere around 2000
2) any downsides to these used engines? downside to used engines are that you dunno if they are beat to hell from previous owner and any other flaws that mite exist with the motor
3) any downsides to the actual car? it's your car...you tell me the downside
4) what will be gas increase and power increase like will i feel more torque and and easier pickup when pressing down on the gas(160hp??) b16 motors are torqueless and it need to be revved up to make good power...of course i'm speaking in terms of stock, not built...you will definitely not get as good gas milage compared to ur d-series
5) your feedback on positives better than your d-series
6) your feedback on negativesno torque
7) and have any of you out there done it? i would choose a 1.8L over the 1.6L anyday
8) How is this going to affect insurance, do I notify them or not? if you tell insurance, you gotta be prepared to pay
9) differences between all the different b16 models, hp, torque cost?there are b16 first gen and 2nd gen...and also the type are b16b. i believe 1st gen is rated 160hp 116tq...it's cable so not suitable for your car. 2nd gen is rated 170hp and 116 tq...it's hydro so it's ideal for your car. the jdm version is said to yield little more power due to higher compression. Finally the type R b16b is rated 185 hp and 118tq....obviously it's the best of all 3 and it's more expensive out of all 3....choose carefully=)
2) any downsides to these used engines? downside to used engines are that you dunno if they are beat to hell from previous owner and any other flaws that mite exist with the motor
3) any downsides to the actual car? it's your car...you tell me the downside
4) what will be gas increase and power increase like will i feel more torque and and easier pickup when pressing down on the gas(160hp??) b16 motors are torqueless and it need to be revved up to make good power...of course i'm speaking in terms of stock, not built...you will definitely not get as good gas milage compared to ur d-series
5) your feedback on positives better than your d-series
6) your feedback on negativesno torque
7) and have any of you out there done it? i would choose a 1.8L over the 1.6L anyday
8) How is this going to affect insurance, do I notify them or not? if you tell insurance, you gotta be prepared to pay
9) differences between all the different b16 models, hp, torque cost?there are b16 first gen and 2nd gen...and also the type are b16b. i believe 1st gen is rated 160hp 116tq...it's cable so not suitable for your car. 2nd gen is rated 170hp and 116 tq...it's hydro so it's ideal for your car. the jdm version is said to yield little more power due to higher compression. Finally the type R b16b is rated 185 hp and 118tq....obviously it's the best of all 3 and it's more expensive out of all 3....choose carefully=)
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