1.6rze

i have a EG Dx hatch with a b18c and im going to be keeping the motor stock just i/h/e thats it... my qustion is i have a vary small stock dx rad do you think its allright for my car? OR may be theres a up graded coolent i should use? need some pointers there...
ALSO... i have stock dx brakes ... looking for some pointers..
Thinking about geting 2 brembo blank rotors for the front with other oem pads or some good after market onces? herd rear disk is not worth it drums do the same... so than may be i should change to new drums and after market pads?? Please try to help me out a bit thanks alot for your time.....

chris_si98

your dx rad should be fine assuming its in good working order. If it overheats I would upgrade to an automatic rad (i heard there larger) or just get an aftermarket rad.

For brakes.. if you want semi-decent braking get an aggressive set of pads (ebc, hawk hps, etc) and a good quality blank rotor. That should be enough for a stock gsr. If you want more there are many, many options such as getting a larger MC/BB, getting gsr/type-r fronts.

The way your brake system is setup now.. your fronts do more of the braking so I wouldn't worry about them. Just get them adjusted (if you haven't done so in a while)

newman

Whats with everyone and their hard-on with brembo blanks? Seriously if i told you I had three magic beans in my pocket would you want to buy those too?

To answer your question the your stock rad will be sufficient.

Brakes like said above upgrade our pads, you will notice the larger difference with them. Don't waste money on overly proced rotors, even if you run an off shores rotor with an agressive pad you will be fine.

imported_mikepasini

dude, don't waste your money on anny of that... i have a b18c1 in my ek and when i first got the swap the brakes didn't feel like they grabbed as hard anymore, plus, i am stopping a lot more often from faster speeds cause this motor owns my dx... bbbut...


i just put gsr fronts on.... was like 200-220 for the front brake assembly... you pick out of a pile, i got pretty much new pads... aggressive ones too and pretty much new calipers.. they still had the gold tinting on them from being new and the rotors were in awesome shape. you can put the **** on yourself if you know how to turn a screw/bolt. so, i got pads, rotors, calipers and all of them being twice the size of the stock ones (not really twice the size) and they brake hard... pretty hard... i can stop like nothing going 140 to like 20 if traffic stopped in like no time.

newman

thats the kind of statement that gives honda owners a bad name. You bought a spindle assmebly and ran the used pads and rotors. Next your going to talk about recycling used AMSOIL because it is still better than new quaker state.

chris_si98

or replacing the water pump and re-using the old gasket. lol

imported_mikepasini

ha. what gives honda owners a bad name is morons. explain to me the correlation of brake assemblies and motor oil. motor oil having a life of 5000km roughly and from the beginning to the end of its life it slowly breaks down and is of course not reusable. brake assemblies (in my case with new pads and calipers) that have a life of oh at least 100,000km (60,000km maybe on the pads) and don't really decline in performance over usability much during their lifespan.

newman

The point of the comparison is that if your too cheap to replace pads and rotors, the next step would be to run used oil since it hasent broke down yet. The point was AMSOIL because everyone says it last twice as long.

Read your statements, you are the moron. How stupid does this actaully sound. Your running brakes that you bought from an importer. Do you know how they are treated, have you ever unloaded a container? Don't beleive that load of BS about 60,00km on them ether. Maybe they have life left but you swap the suspension and your motor spend the extra couple of dollars and buy new brakes, not used ones. Even butchers don't do that on their own cars.


Let me guess your running the lower ball joint from them too.

imported_mikepasini

hahaha. no... actually...

i guess you didn't catch on to what i was saying... i said lifespan... not "of life" in relation to the kms i was talking about... if you re-read you will see.. i was comparing approx how long oil vs brake assemblies last in terms of how long they are effective for and how fast it breaks down over the lifespan... as you were comparing buying a used break assembly off another car and putting it on yours to re-using motor oil... you could put breaks on your car after being used for 50,000km and they will still break probably just as well... you could put oil in your car after being used for 3000km, but it won't be as good because the particles have already began to break down and its not nearly as effective. thats the most imbecilic comparison i have ever heard... that's all i was saying.

and there is no 60,000km bull**** on them, thats engines...

and you have your pick, so if you are at all knowledgeable about the stuff you are picking up, you can choose the right ones that are in good shape... i got for $200 roughly almost brand new calipers and pads and rotors... from teknotik which i have dealt with for a little while now and they have been excellent...

the dude was looking for a brake upgrade... this is the best bang for the buck IMO and from personal experience. i know what those tiny little cx calipers are not capable of.

newman

Your completley missing the point. I used the oil as a comparison since everone knows not to reuse it, just as everyone should know not to reuse brake and suspension parts. I consider them both stupid moves, just dont do it. It's like rebuilding a motor and using the old gaskets and bearings even though they look good.

I don't care of the spindles from teknotick come with the midas-hard-as-brick-lifetime-pads on them, they are used and why not change them while installing the spindles. Eric might be able to get some good stuff but its still used. Maybe I enjoy spending money but the way I see it replace you old/used brake parts when installing the spindles or maybe I enjoy my stopping capabilities.

But fo rthe orignial poster, the best bang for the buck is an aftermarket pad such as the ebc or hawk or a second line rotor. Your looking at just over $100 to upgrade the fronts and the little calipers can handle it, afterall he's driving on the street. So compare that option of NEW brakes for half the price of your USED and a little bigger brake option.

imported_mikepasini

rebuilding a motor is taking used/worn parts and replacing them with new parts to try to bring it back to its original condition. so, say i rebuilt my motor and replaced everything but say the bearings then I have mixed worn parts with new parts and it wouldn't work properly and def not be a good idea.

but i am taking a complete unassembled part (you unassemble an engine to rebuild it) that already functioned properly on the car it came from and putting it on mine without changing any of the properties of it like you do with rebuilding an engine. just thought you should know that you shouild be comparing my installing the sprindles to buying a used motor to swap in. cause it worked in the other car and nothing's changed since its been pulled.

also, i didn't know the spindles from teknotik came with midas pads on them... did they put them on when they get here from japan or do they import it from midas in japan?*



























*Hint: Midas doesn't exist in Japan

newman

Dude your are offically an idiot, go whine about your busted GSR, or breaking another part on your peasant car.

The entire Midas comment was a joke, everyone who knows anything about cars understood that, since they claim you never need to replace their pads. I was saying even if your spindles came with pads like that, meaning they might still be good for years, you should still replace them you putz.

I say this one last time and take my adivce and read it slowly.

I gave you many different examples on what NOT to do. Since you olbiviously missed the first one I contiuned to make it more olbivious each time. You should not re-use used parts, some things should just be bought new.

Even you agree that you should not reuse oil, gaskets, bearings, but why won't you agree to replace used brakes or ball joints.

newman

See that he understands what I'm saying

imported_mikepasini

ok there buddy. i can't believe you keep dragging on and challening my intellect because no matter what you say i garauntee i can find fault in it. simple as that (well you are)

kwasley

i think you 2 should probably fight

imported_mikepasini

hahaha... i am just messing around... i am bored @home right now and have nothing better to do.

Bryce

E-BEEF

newman

Yup challenging your intellect. Your intellect comes from Handa-tech and thats it. This is why I barley post on this board, its filled with peasants who ramble on about the latest fact they heard from Super Street or read on the net.

Well maybe you can't afford to replace your old brakes because your too busy fixing your tired powertrain. Maybe if you were as intelligent as you claim you would have replaced your drive shaft when it broke rather than begging for help and getting a tow. Or maybe you would be able to fix some of these dozens of problems you have with your piece of lumber.


I predict next month we hear about how your lower ball snapped and you wheel took out your fender. Because it still has life left.

My point is don't be cheap, be safe and replace used parts.

imported_mikepasini