effects of light weight flywheel
10-Nov-2005, 05:11 PM
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effects of light weight flywheel
i was argueing with my firned the other day,
we all know that an engine with a light flywheel will rev up quicker, but will the rpms drop quicker due to less wiehgt? i say yes. his arguement is that because of the less weight the rpms will "float" before dropping. im pretty sure hes wrong
but lets find out
we all know that an engine with a light flywheel will rev up quicker, but will the rpms drop quicker due to less wiehgt? i say yes. his arguement is that because of the less weight the rpms will "float" before dropping. im pretty sure hes wrong
but lets find out
10-Nov-2005, 06:53 PM
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yeah the revs definately will drop faster.
Now, has anyone else ever heard that using a lightened flywheel will shorten the life of the engine? And that its harder on the engine because more of the vibrations get transferred to the crankshaft b/c the flywheel is so light.
IMO a lightened flywheel is a good mod, especially if your already droppin' the tranny to replace the clutch. You might loose a little bottom end power, but will gain throughout the rest of the powerband.
Now, has anyone else ever heard that using a lightened flywheel will shorten the life of the engine? And that its harder on the engine because more of the vibrations get transferred to the crankshaft b/c the flywheel is so light.
IMO a lightened flywheel is a good mod, especially if your already droppin' the tranny to replace the clutch. You might loose a little bottom end power, but will gain throughout the rest of the powerband.
10-Nov-2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by viper
I just ordered my clutch/flywheel combo yesterday,...gonna be a long winter looking at it on my bookshelf...lol
I just ordered my clutch/flywheel combo yesterday,...gonna be a long winter looking at it on my bookshelf...lol
10-Nov-2005, 07:22 PM
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Haha Chris is going through the waiting period. I waited 9 months to swap my coilover on. Looked at that **** every night down the basement is just mind blowing stupid.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
10-Nov-2005, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Haha Chris is going through the waiting period. I waited 9 months to swap my coilover on. Looked at that **** every night down the basement is just mind blowing stupid.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
Haha Chris is going through the waiting period. I waited 9 months to swap my coilover on. Looked at that **** every night down the basement is just mind blowing stupid.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
10-Nov-2005, 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Nova_Dust
Haha Chris is going through the waiting period. I waited 9 months to swap my coilover on. Looked at that **** every night down the basement is just mind blowing stupid.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
Haha Chris is going through the waiting period. I waited 9 months to swap my coilover on. Looked at that **** every night down the basement is just mind blowing stupid.
It can drive a man crazy.
Back on topic, I should know how a lightened flywheel feels like come this Sunday.
10-Nov-2005, 09:07 PM
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A lightened flywheel will not shorten the life of the engine. Most of the vibrations in the engine are usually dampened by the harmonic balancer or balancers.
B and D = Balancer (built into crank pully)
H and F = Balancers (2 shafts)
When removing harmonic dampeners such as changing your crank pully, (underdrive pully) alot of times you may cause damage to your engine. The vibrations caused by your internal rotating assembly need to exit, and unforturately the brunt of the forces are taken out on other parts (IE: the rod and crank bearings, the crankshaft, oil pump etc.). You may not notice any damage immediatly, however it is happening.
You can reduce the amount of harmonics being produced by balancing your engine.
As far as Lightening the flywheel I don't see too many downfalls:
-possible stalling (not enough rotating mass)
-weakening the flywheel itself (removing too much material)
^^^ have not run into this problem yet!
Other then that It's probably one of my favorite non-forced inducted, easy to do mods.
B and D = Balancer (built into crank pully)
H and F = Balancers (2 shafts)
When removing harmonic dampeners such as changing your crank pully, (underdrive pully) alot of times you may cause damage to your engine. The vibrations caused by your internal rotating assembly need to exit, and unforturately the brunt of the forces are taken out on other parts (IE: the rod and crank bearings, the crankshaft, oil pump etc.). You may not notice any damage immediatly, however it is happening.
You can reduce the amount of harmonics being produced by balancing your engine.
As far as Lightening the flywheel I don't see too many downfalls:
-possible stalling (not enough rotating mass)
-weakening the flywheel itself (removing too much material)
^^^ have not run into this problem yet!
Other then that It's probably one of my favorite non-forced inducted, easy to do mods.
10-Nov-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by DefconDave
... dampened by the harmonic balancer or balancers.
B and D = Balancer (built into crank pully)
H and F = Balancers (2 shafts)
... dampened by the harmonic balancer or balancers.
B and D = Balancer (built into crank pully)
H and F = Balancers (2 shafts)
The damper in the crank pulley does dampen engine vibrations, but for a reliability/durability standpoint, not to make a smoother running engine.
10-Nov-2005, 10:23 PM
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easy to do?!?!?!
I would not call having to drop the tranny an easy to do mod. Like a header or even cams.
But very worth while if you are replacing the clutch, hell for a little more than what you would pay to get your flywheel resurfaced and balanced (which IMO should be done when replacing the clutch), you can get a 7-11lbs new flywheel.
So, you don't think that more strain would be put on the crankshaft/bearings when you use a lightened flywheel? I mean wouldn't the crank take more abuse with less mass to absorb the shock of the clutch engaging?
I am interested to hear more opinions on this because i remember reading a pretty technical article about this somewhere. I completely agree about using a aftermarket crank pulleys unless its one of those fluidamper ones.
I would not call having to drop the tranny an easy to do mod. Like a header or even cams.
But very worth while if you are replacing the clutch, hell for a little more than what you would pay to get your flywheel resurfaced and balanced (which IMO should be done when replacing the clutch), you can get a 7-11lbs new flywheel.
So, you don't think that more strain would be put on the crankshaft/bearings when you use a lightened flywheel? I mean wouldn't the crank take more abuse with less mass to absorb the shock of the clutch engaging?
I am interested to hear more opinions on this because i remember reading a pretty technical article about this somewhere. I completely agree about using a aftermarket crank pulleys unless its one of those fluidamper ones.
11-Nov-2005, 04:51 AM
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i'm using a Toda 8lbs flywheel, and the only downfall i find is that the engine idle drops down when i clutch in, and then pulls itself back up a bit.
motor does rev up a lot faster though...works great with tight ratio gearboxes. i was considering the ACT Pro-light too cuz of the cost. it's pretty cheap for what it is...
motor does rev up a lot faster though...works great with tight ratio gearboxes. i was considering the ACT Pro-light too cuz of the cost. it's pretty cheap for what it is...
