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Old 05-Dec-2005, 11:01 PM
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They probably hacked it toa ll hell to, in the Audio industry Phantom is known as one of the biggest hack shops around.
It's also funny since the bigger you become the more haters you get as well.
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Old 06-Dec-2005, 02:05 PM
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i dunno i heard some stuff about phantom lol i co-op at selective sound so i sorta know whats goin on wif them n not a fan but they have a sik baby blue del sol that came outta there i give them that but yeah at the track my car comes out june for the track so ill see u there! does anyone know which are the 2 k series efs? i know the red one but which colour is the other one mayb i have seen it?
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Old 06-Dec-2005, 03:25 PM
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phantoms ius orange and my buddys is red
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Old 07-Dec-2005, 06:51 PM
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orange one?? never seen that one unless its a crx? and question fuel mangement what should i go with? not lookin too crazy but good for a k20 or b18c5 motor? and also do u know who did the k20 at phantom i know they didnt what shop did they use??
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Old 07-Dec-2005, 06:59 PM
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well if you go K20 you will need to buy the hondata K Pro which is $$$$$. If you go with the c5 you can either use a p73 (itr) ecu or just chip your current ecu, all depends what car its going into. IF its going into an obd1 car you can use a chipped p28 or have a p06 ecu modded for vtec and chipped, but if its going into an obd2 car then you can use a stock p73.
Either way, happy swapping.
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Old 07-Dec-2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by sol2nv
orange one?? never seen that one unless its a crx? and question fuel mangement what should i go with? not lookin too crazy but good for a k20 or b18c5 motor? and also do u know who did the k20 at phantom i know they didnt what shop did they use??
Actually they did do the swap on site. They do a lot more than just stereo work.
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Old 07-Dec-2005, 08:07 PM
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lol which one did they do the red one? n thanks for the info zeeman! another question im thinkin of goin toyo tires does anyone recomend something else? and 14.15.16 for the rim size? im thinkin 14 in the back and 13 in the front or jus 14 all around?
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Old 07-Dec-2005, 08:59 PM
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Its already been posted as to which car is which.

13's won't fit on an integra suspension, if thats what you are planning to still do. With a larger rim they also become wider allowing you to run a wider tire = more contact on the ground = more traction.

For additional information check hasport, k20.org, HondaTech and some of the RSX forums.
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Originally posted by badkarma
1st of ALL, this woman wants a track car she wants to run ###'s and to do so u need a go kart (EF) not a COUPE wow a coupe is so damn slow not even funni, plus y would u buy another car waste more $$

do ur research go to sum civic meets talk wit the members cuz WE can giv great advice thats wat we r here for! not to talk smack but to help 1 another and just chill.

The hell you know what your talking about. You've spit the most amount of garbage on these threads....ever. I'm being dead serious by the way.
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Old 09-Dec-2005, 03:34 PM
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Hey krystyn " Del Slow " looks like some guys are not giving good advice. no " Coupes are slow and or Heavy " My opinion begs to differ. Some ppl just dont knoe wut there talking about.

Well Krystyn u can either listen to me and ppl like zeeman and ur car will be pretty damn FAST. Obviously it wont keep up to my "si"

Looks like we will have quite a few trips to Cayuga... G.L.
I have the write up netime u want.
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Old 09-Dec-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by badkarma
1st of ALL, this woman wants a track car she wants to run ###'s and to do so u need a go kart (EF) not a COUPE wow a coupe is so damn slow not even funni, plus y would u buy another car waste more $$$$ on insurance payments government stuff over again! if this girl wants work and i mean serious work then she can stick to K but then she needs to know that every shop will hustle u for every penny u hav cuz they will find every possible excuse they can find to do ur K swap unless u doing the work or u and a friend or relative hav a shop of ur/ they own. another thing turbo setup is much easier on a B series then on a K if u want go buy this month's HONDA TUNING MAGAZINE and read the turbo K rsx cuz thats wat u want in future right? a turboed B18C5 or K20/24 so do ur research go to sum civic meets talk wit the members cuz we can giv great advice thats wat we r here for! not to talk smack but to help 1 another and just chill.

no offence man but ure not giving this girl that great advice...

personnaly i think that a 92-00 chassis would be alot better of an investment if u decide upon the k20 swap because alot less customization will be needed.
If u do plan on getting the ITR motor, if u plan on turboing later down the road then its not really worth it. it would be better for an all motor setup. B18b is a better motor to boost becauseit has much lower compression which is better for a forced induction setup
hope this helps!
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Old 11-Dec-2005, 10:48 PM
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what do u guys think of msd distiburtors? and msd ignitions and spark plugs? how good are they n does it make a difference for a b18c5 n k20? anyone know? or have any comments from expirence?
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Old 11-Dec-2005, 10:57 PM
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Honda OEM ignition parts are could to around 300whp. If you are going to be force inducted or running real high compression, I would recommend getting colder plugs.
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Old 11-Dec-2005, 10:58 PM
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hey "frank"

lol i think they jus sayin coupes are slow cuz they seen u race lmfao JOKES yeah it looks like we gonna have a lot of fun at cayuga buddy gotta set it straight then we can have fun wif all these guys haha....and thats what u think si ma plz i jus not ready for awake up call from a 89 hatch *the lil civic that could*



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i heard many of things about the b18c5 on boost what i heard that the compression wuz to high and its not good to boost? anyone got expirence on a boosted b18c5? lol and thanks for the help
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Old 11-Dec-2005, 10:59 PM
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colder plugs? do u know of any name brands so i can look into it? thanks chris_si98
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Old 11-Dec-2005, 11:09 PM
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These are the NGK codes for the plug. If you are getting a b18c5 or k20, you probably wouldn't need to go a step colder, only if your boosting or if your going to raise the compression I would suggest running colder plugs.

2 step colder are NGK ZFR7F-11 amd the 1 step colder plugs are NGK BKR7E-11.
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Old 12-Dec-2005, 12:59 AM
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Higher compression engines can handle boost it's just they NEED to be tuned well(conservative is key). Paul @ Neetronics has had success with tuning Typr R's in the past.
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Old 12-Dec-2005, 02:55 AM
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higher compression motors means less room for error with timing and crap while lower compression motors will be easier to tune.
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Old 12-Dec-2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by chris_si98
These are the NGK codes for the plug. If you are getting a b18c5 or k20, you probably wouldn't need to go a step colder, only if your boosting or if your going to raise the compression I would suggest running colder plugs.

2 step colder are NGK ZFR7F-11 amd the 1 step colder plugs are NGK BKR7E-11.
both those plugs are cold. both are 7 heat range. the reach is different, the zfr are an extended reach plug...not recommended for engines with big dome pistons.
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Old 12-Dec-2005, 01:17 PM
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check out honda-tech.. people have boosted R's on there.. you can see their setups..
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